The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Although Sarathos makes almost no sense, I did get the strong sense of townie when I was alive, Sarathos is normally like this I guess.

I wouldn't vote him.

[Sarathos]

What terrible logic.
Vote: Sarathos
If a person is going to get WOG'd, we shouldn't waste our precious time lynching them.
This is an easy vote, one without much risk - Sarathos doesn't have to argue against someone here or even the conventional wisdom of trying to get lurkers to be active.
If you want someone to participate, PM them or something instead of starting lynching them off - because I suspect you wouldn't take this vote off of WH if he did show up. Heck, you don't even need to participate much more in the discussions yourself.

So you would lynch an active play instead...? No wonder the town is losing.
I do apologise if I am not making sense and I do agree we should waste our time with lurkers but what else is there to do? Almost everyone on the alive list is a lurker, even you until just now CR, so what discussion can take place if there is no one to discuss with? And what makes you think I wouldn't unvote WH?

I would like to hear your ideas CR.

[LittleGrizzly]

Okay i am making a case to vote for Warmaster Horus, its by no means a slam dunk but it is the greatest suspicion i have at the moment and heres why....

Firstly im sure Sigurd said he would not wog the Jotun, i have gone back a few pages and can't find it but im quite sure he said it as some point.

Secondly lets look at someone who was wogged, Omanes.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=971
theres the link to his last post before his wog, 16/08 13:58

Now lets look at WH last post, who hasn't been wogged...
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=977
16/08 15.40

So the only difference there between someone who was wogged and someone who wasn't is 2 hours! (and 2 mins)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1091
This is the post where the Wog happened if anyone's intrested...

Tally:

CountArach: 6 (Andres, glyphz, Husar, Kukrikhaan, Privateerkev, Warmaster H )

Warmaster's first vote, fair enough CA was acting a little dodgy, this vote alone is understandable

Crazed Rabbit 4: (FH, TinCow, Tratorix, Warmaster H)

Warmasters second vote, didn't vote the lord out, unscummy move, possibly unknown move though

glyphz: 12 (Andres, Eliit, Fenring, GH, Ichigo, Kukri, LG, PK, Seamus, shlin, TinCow, Warmaster)

Slightly hypocritical off me to criticise this one, but that is a 2nd god wh voted for...

Abstain : 1 (Warmaster)

Usually a good way to stay out of trouble...

Not voting : 7 (CR, disco, Kage, Omanes, pever, Seamus, Warmaster)

An even better way to stay out of trouble, I admit that this isn't a great case, but someone give me a better one and ill jump on board...

[LittleGrizzly]

Tally
Fenring 2 (Gauis, Disco)
Warmaster Horus 2 (LG, Sarathos)
Sarathos 1 (CR)

[Kralizec]

As announced, Vote: PrivateerKev

EDIT: nevermind, I thought GSC was suspicious but it slipped past me that he survived assassination last night.

[Husar]

Hah, knew it.
So the writeup suggests that Fenring is a Rus, so did we/do we have a Rus King or is that perhaps some Jotun hiding identity? People have been claiming all sorts of roles and I'd say don't trust every reveal you got via PM after the two first kings revealed. Revisit, look closely, use yer brain, fyi, I only ever got one via PM and the person is dead, all the others who are supposedly clean I was told, I have never seen their claims, I'm inclined to go on a hunch and vote for one of them if I won't get something substantial soon.

[Andres]

It's interesting to see that Motep is still alive.

I suggest you lynch Fenring or Warmaster Horus today.

Motep should fight in a holmgang.

We are near the end game, so now is the time to be open about the townie network.

No need to reveal roles, but people can vouch for each other, can't they?

[Privateerkev]

vote: Sarathos

Why were you in my tent the other night...

tally:

Sarathos: 2 (Crazed Rabbit, Privateerkev)
Fenring: 2 (discovery1, Gaius Scribonius Curio)

Warmaster Horus: 1 (Sarathos)
PrivateerKev: 1 (Fenring)

*Sorry LG but I didn't actually see you vote for WH so I'm not counting it in the tally.

[FactionHeir]

Or rather, what were you two doing together?

[TinCow]

I am back online in the hospital for the moment. However, LOTR is my first priority at the Org and I've had to devote time to that first. Also, there's still this small factor about my wife (who is doing very well and will probably be released in a few hours). I have just finished reading this thread, but I have a lot of PMs to go over and do not know whether I'll have enough time to get through them, let alone respond, before the voting deadline. I expect to be back to a normal posting schedule tonight, however that is after the vote phase expired. So, for the meantime:

Vote: Abstain

Just to make sure I get counted. If I can get through all this stuff before the deadline, I will change it to an actual vote later.

[Privateerkev]

Or rather, what were you two doing together?

eww...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[LittleGrizzly]

Im going to Vote CrazedRabbit on account of his suspicious night time activities...

[Husar]

I think Motep was kept alive because of his ambiguity, I believe he really is the swedish king as GH claimed to be his champion now and that seems about right to me, making a champion promotion up would require something like...a champion promotion before that, but there was none that I'm aware of.
The Holmgang scores Gh gave were also correct so I do not see much wrong, in his fight with Fenring, the dice fell relatively even it seems, first phase they wound eachother, second phase as well and only in the third phase is Fenring the only one to hit. I wouldn't expect a Jotun to let itself get hit that often to seem more human but then I could be wrong but I suspect he's some kind of warrior or maybe not.

For now, I will

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

[Motep]

It's interesting to see that Motep is still alive.

I suggest you lynch Fenring or Warmaster Horus today.

Motep should fight in a holmgang.

We are near the end game, so now is the time to be open about the townie network.

No need to reveal roles, but people can vouch for each other, can't they?

Honestly, I thought that I would have been killed by now...

[Privateerkev]

unvote: Sarathos
vote: Crazed Rabbit

He has been claiming some very awesome abilities in private. But we in the townie network have our suspicions. I think it is time to force a reveal.

tally:

CrazedRabbit: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Husar, Privateerkev)

Fenring: 2 (discovery1, Gaius Scribonius Curio)

Sarathos: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)
Warmaster Horus: 1 (Sarathos)
PrivateerKev: 1 (Fenring)

abstain: 1 (TinCow)

[Ferret]

Hardly awsome, but yeah the first sentence of each night time write up was very, very suspicious.

[TinCow]

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Crazed Rabbit

The townie network has concluded that he is Jotun based on information he himself provided which fits in nicely with Jotun behavior and known Jotun abilities.

[Motep]

Screw it.

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

[Craterus]

vote: Crazed Rabbit

Best case at this moment.

[Kralizec]

Why were you in my tent the other night...

What are you referring to?

[Privateerkev]

Sarathos knows exactly what I mean...

But it looks like he is off the hook for now...

[Kralizec]

I'm not convinced of Crazed Rabbit's innocence, but what is this "case" against him? What suspicious night activities?

I did a little digging in the story thread, and this caught my eye.

One such was discovery1. He quite boldly called the 12 that were responsible for this ordeal a bunch of headless chicken. “You are so dumb, when you had a brainstorm it was just a drizzle”.
The Swedes that stood with discovery1 laughed hard.

It says that discovery1 stould with the Swedes, not necessarily meaning he's one of them. It may just as well mean nothing. On the other hand discovery1 doesn't seem to have added much to the discussion, or at least not after I had become more active. In most cases people are explicitly referred to as being part of a faction, or being in their camp at night. The only other people where this is not the case when someone is only used to deliver the tally to the law speaker or to kill a convicted person, or when they turned out to be gods (countarach and glyphz/Loki)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Disco's a Swede. Kill Fenring.

[Warmaster Horus]

Well, I'll vote:Crazed Rabbit too. Self preservation, since I don't want to be WOG'ed. And for those who question it, more townies=more for the Jotun to kill.

[Sigurd]

Round 6 Conclusion



When the law speaker left his tent at dawn he found the entire retinues from the Kingdoms outside. They all looked sinister. He walked slowly along the ranks of Norse with his hands behind his back and glanced at them now and then. The law speaker saw their mind in their eyes. “So you have come to take me? You don’t know me and therefore I am the natural suspect. I am only surprised you waited so long. Some of you I didn’t expect. I am disappointed, but not surprised at this. I am getting used to this by now”. The man called Warmaster stepped out of the ranks. “I am sorry, but it is the majority’s wish that you die”. The law speaker looked into Warmaster’s eyes. “You too? I once had a dear friend that betrayed his master. Why I don’t know, but these things seem to iterate. A millennia ago, I was betrayed by friends and I had to flee. There is evil in this world that want to destroy all that is good. I have fled from it since that time. Darkness has filled the earth since. I see it is time for me to leave again.
The Jomsviking called Husar came up behind the law speaker. “It is time law speaker. It will be quick”. The law speaker sank to his knees and put his palms together in front of him and exclaimed: “Forgive them for this offence to thee, o Lord. Soften their hearts and let thy light enter their souls. Remember thy promise to me and do not chastise them for this. Thy power is great and will prevail. Cleanse this place of evil I pray in the name of thy son. Amen”.
The law speaker bowed his head. “I am ready”. Husar lifted his sword, the point at the nape of the law speaker’s neck and thrust it into him. It appeared like instant death because the law speaker went limp without a sound.



Tally

CR: 7 (Craterus, Husar, LG, Motep, PK, TinCow, Warmaster)

Fenring : 2 (disco, Gaius)
Sarathos : 1 (CR)
PK : 1 (Fenring)
Warmaster : 1 (Sarathos)

Not voting : 1 (Ichigo)

Killed: (7)

Twilightblade (R1)
Caius (R2)
Rythmic (R3)
Eliit Tuhkur (R4)
shlin28 (R4)
Proletariat (R5)
Kukrikhan (R6)

Killed in Holmgang: (5)

makaikhaan (R1)
FactionHeir (R2)
Andres (R3)
woad&fangs (R4)
GeneralHankerchief (R5)

Lynched: (6)

CountArach (R1)
Tratorix (R2)
glyphz (R3)
El Diablo (R4)
Seamus (R5)
Crazed Rabbit (R6)

WoG: (6)

scottishranger (R3)
TevashSzat (R4)
Quintus.J.Cicero (R4)
Kagemusha (R5)
pevergreen (R5)
Omanes (R5)

Living: (12)

Craterus
discovery1
Fenring
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Husar
Ichigo
LittleGrizzly
Motep
Privateerkev
Sarathos
TinCow
Warmaster Horus


Challenges and PMs people. Deadline on Thor's day the 21st of August at 2000 GMT

[Seamus Fermanagh]

CR may be a good pick. He's been under-the-radar, post-light, but voting just enough to avoid a wog. Does fit the profile.

However, I would caution you that GH is providing sage advice. Do not leave that task undone either.

[Ferret]

At least you killed someone begining with a J, not Jotun though...

[Motep]

FoS: Craterus and PK. They are the ringleaders of the townie group that urged to eliminate the law speaker.

[Csargo]

Jesus? You guys killed Jesus. For shame.

[TinCow]

FoS: Craterus and PK. They are the ringleaders of the townie group that urged to eliminate the law speaker.

No, that was my fault. I urged them to lynch him because of a pattern of behavior I saw. I made my case and they followed along with it. Neither of them proposed it, nor do I have any reason to suspect them of anything. If you want to lynch someone for CR, you should lynch me.