The Lunar Whale: A Final Fantasy IV Mafia [Concluded]

[Thermal]

3minutes... ok mayb not lol

[Quintus.JC]

would that not stil leave room for turncoats?

There's nothing we can do about turncoats, all we can do now is try to get the original mafias first.

There’s still plenty of chances for mistakes but there are a certain advantage to that:

Pro:
If the detective just simply investigate whomever he wants then only he knows who is innocent and who is not, but using my idea and with the co-operation of the detective the whole town will be able to know who is innocent if the detective keeps his silence. This way certain people will be cleared of suspicion.

Cons:
If the detective is murdered. And the mafia have no idea who the detective is, every time we ask for an investigation we will obviously get a silence because the detective is dead, so that doesn’t work out for the best.

If the detective refuses to co-operate, but then again that’s his problem.

[Chaotix]

Vote Tally:
Caius: 4
Quintus.JC: 3
Askthepizzaguy: 1
glyphz: 1
Warmaster Horus: 1

Tiberius did not vote. That's Strike One for you. Don't make me have to tell you how many strikes you need for a WoG, and you'll be fine.

Lynching:

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The shadowy figure moved close enough for the heroes to see him. FuSoYa was the first to notice him.

"A fiend of Zemus! Slay him!" FuSoYa exclaimed. "Firaga!"

A huge jet of flame spewed forth from FuSoYa's fingertips, burning away the shadows that surrounded the figure. But when the dust cleared, there was no one standing in his place.

FuSoYa felt a tap on his shoulder. He turned instantly, shouting, "Thundaga!" and this time lightning shot out of his hands. But there was still no one there.

Suddenly a figure dropped from the ceiling, landing on the table the other heroes had only moments ago been sitting at. This time the figure discarded the smokescreen surrounding him, revealing Edge the Ninja underneath. "Hey, old man. Don't try that again, huh? You almost singed my hair there. So, how's it going, everyone?

The Results:

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Still Alive:
Askthepizzaguy
Warmaster Horus
Quintus.JC
Tiberius of the Drake
shlin28
El Diablo
Elite Ferret
FactionHeir
Aries777777
glyphz
Caius- survived one lynch.

Night 1 has begun.

I know the write up was a bit short. I'll try to make it a bit longer, next time.

[Ferret]

Ah, so its reasons you want, that I can give, plus plenty more.

So everyone is happy with the agreement then?

No way, we don't know if there is a detective, if no one says anything it could be because no one has the role of detective, meaning you wouldn't have been investigated. The more you post the more scummy you look to me, I say we lynch him next round.

As for Caius again I don't think the mafia could survive a lynch, that would be a little unfair, so I say he is innocent, for now.

[shlin28]

Epic.

Caius got some special role that can survive lynches? I doubt the mafia would have this ability, so I would say he is the serial killer or pro-town.

[Thermal]

hmmm...i was unsure of its consequence, it seems caius will have time to talk now afterall...one faled lynch for probably the wrong person is only hindering towns chances, i hope the suspects will become more clear on the next day phase, on the basis tha we all get through the night alive...

[Askthepizzaguy]

@EF-

I think Chaotix mentioned somewhere that there was an investigator, but I can't be sure. I'll go check the first several posts to be on the safe side.

@Shlin-

I agree... I think the odds are long Caius is the saboteur now. Let's focus on others. I'm not saying I trust him, but, we have to work this out logically, not randomly accuse and then stick with it in spite of evidence to the contrary. If he is still guilty it will have to be proven later, because we can't afford to keep lynching him.

@Aries-

I think this helps town. We might have killed one of the sabateurs, which is good. And instead, we have all townies still alive. Also good.

I think we can put Caius into the "safe" category, for now, and move on to the next suspects. Now we just wait to see who gets murdered.

And by the way, if I get murdered, my Finger of Suspicion on Elite Ferret is hereby reinstated. For reasons which I won't be able to tell you until the game is over.

[Quintus.JC]

No way, we don't know if there is a detective, if no one says anything it could be because no one has the role of detective, meaning you wouldn't have been investigated. The more you post the more scummy you look to me, I say we lynch him next round.

As for Caius again I don't think the mafia could survive a lynch, that would be a little unfair, so I say he is innocent, for now.

Oh gez, not again.

Okay, so the detective role is unconfirmed, but the vigilante is, why don't you people just set both of them on me. We know one of these roles exists, possiblily both. So that would definitely prove me innocent.

So, I ask both the detective and the vigilante to have a go at me, then we can know for sure whether I'm innocent or not.

Edit: And oh yes, Caius is probably innocent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Quintus, its better if we seperate them into two nights.

detective first night, vigilante second, ok?

Its better for town in all cases.

[Chaotix]

Remember, anyone who wants to use a special ability, or in the mafia's case, kill someone, should probably email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com. PM is not the best option, unfortunately, as it can be tracked.

Also: Active town specials can be ordered during the Day as well as Night, but I believe all of them only work for one full Day/Night phase. Thus, if you want to use them, it would be better to do it earlier so I can implement the ability in more actions.

If anyone wants to ask questions about te rules, go ahead. You can talk to me on Yahoo Messenger too.

[Quintus.JC]

Quintus, its better if we seperate them into two nights.

detective first night, vigilante second, ok?

Its better for town in all cases.

It doesn't seems everyone else is happy with that, not that my opinion counts for anything of course.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If we investigate you the first night we may not have to waste a lynch or vigilante on you at all.

If we investigate and vigilante you, you could die and we waste an investigation.

There's no reason at all to do both simultaneously. Thats like lynching and vigilante-ing someone at the same time.

[Ferret]

Oh gez, not again.

Okay, so the detective role is unconfirmed, but the vigilante is, why don't you people just set both of them on me. We know one of these roles exists, possiblily both. So that would definitely prove me innocent.

So, I ask both the detective and the vigilante to have a go at me, then we can know for sure whether I'm innocent or not.

Edit: And oh yes, Caius is probably innocent.

Having the vigilante fail to kill you in no way proves your innocence. It is entirely plausible that the mafia would have protection from a serial killer or some such but still be able to be lynched.

[Thermal]

It doesn't seems everyone else is happy with that, not that my opinion counts for anything of course.

it seems choatix made it to be who you attempts to carry out the lynch, i think your being reasoned with so i see no need for your puzzling behavior, intially saying were ungrateful and now this, townies are ment to stick together, if you are one, then learn not to argue

[Quintus.JC]

If we investigate you the first night we may not have to waste a lynch or vigilante on you at all.

If we investigate and vigilante you, you could die and we waste an investigation.

There's no reason at all to do both simultaneously. Thats like lynching and vigilante-ing someone at the same time.

I understand that, I hope you can persuade others to your opinion as well.

[Quintus.JC]

it seems choatix made it to be who you attempts to carry out the lynch, i think your being reasoned with so i see no need for your puzzling behavior, intially saying were ungrateful and now this, townies are ment to stick together, if you are one, then learn not to argue

All clouds shall be cleared tommorrow. You'll see.

[Thermal]

bit random 2 post it here but i hav 2 go now, and i hav school from tomorrow so ill b on less than usual

[FactionHeir]

Also: Active town specials can be ordered during the Day as well as Night, but I believe all of them only work for one full Day/Night phase. Thus, if you want to use them, it would be better to do it earlier so I can implement the ability in more actions.

If anyone wants to ask questions about te rules, go ahead. You can talk to me on Yahoo Messenger too.

I don't understand this. You say I can use my ability day and night but how does it have any effect during the day when people only vote???

[Chaotix]

Some players may have abilities that could affect a lynch. If I say any more, I may reveal the actual nature of those abilities. It may not be as useful for all abilities to be given earlier, but there are definitely some abilities to which it will give an advantage. You'll probably realize it if your ability is one of those. The main point of my last post was that you could, if you wanted to, give orders for an ability during the day phase. Sorry if I was unclear.

[Caius]

I still don't know why Quintius did that. And the whole disscussion took place while I was in school ( sorry for that)

[El Diablo]

Man this is turning into another Midgard saga where you go away for a day and have 10 pages of posts to wade through.

This is game is crazy though.....

As I see things I am still scepitcal about QJC as is was a pretty strange move to reveal like that.

Because,
1. IF he is town then he should know he is expendable. As long as the town wins he wins.
2. Telling everyone to NOT LYNCH HIM because he states he is not Mafia usually just attracts attention. In this game you can not trust anyone (even ATPG) and saying hey guys don't lynch me as I am such and such and not mafia does not make sence. Especially when the town is well aware that the ONLY way for the town to get the mafia is through lynchings.
3. He states that he is not mafia and if you want then you can investigate him. If he is town he is asking for us to waste an investigation on him now. One that may have not been used on him if he had not revealed?
4. The abilty he claims seems to me to be a great one for absorbing mafia hits. Now they likely wont target him. Of course if he is mafia they wont likely target him either.
5. He has absorbed alot of the interest of the other players. Meanwhile the mafia may just be slipping in unawares. Loads of players have barely posted (myself included) and others just reiterated what others have said without rteally bandwagonning.

THEN to top it all off we nearly lynched Caius so that we wouldn't endanger QJC???

So now to me there are no clearer targets although...

ATPG is very vociferous in accusing - deflecting attentions?
QJC is well... see above.
Warmaster and Tiberius have barely posted - are they trying to lurk?
EF and FH are pretty experianced and would not usually give off to many guilty vibes but may be enjoying all the confusion that QJC has created.

Oh and of course Caius may only be the serial killer.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG is very vociferous in accusing - deflecting attentions?

I don't think this part makes any sense.

Someone always takes the lead in making accusations. That makes them suspicious? Very well. But aren't they just as suspicious as those who lurk or don't post? One might argue, El Diablo, that accusing someone who has been working very hard for town is very scummy behavior. But I'm not going to make such a ridiculous and unproductive, and entirely baseless accusation. Everyone is aware that blabbing, in the manner I have been doing, puts such a person in the harsh and revealing light of day. It puts my name in everyone's mind. Look every few posts, oh, it's askthepizzaguy. Now, when I think about suspects, I'm not thinking about shlin28, I'm thinking about askthepizzaguy. Kind of a dumb thing for mafia to do.

Now comes the baseless reverse psychology argument. "Well, what if you're doing that intentionally, to make yourself seem less suspicious?" Uh huh. So why have several people already pointed to my name when they say things like "anyone could be guilty, even ATPG". Yeah. So don't tell me this "tactic" works to make me look less suspicious. It makes me look more suspicious. It doesn't deflect attention, it invites it.

All that being said, It's more important for me to seek the saboteur than to deflect attention or criticism. So unless someone has something more substantive to work with, I suggest we focus on the more sneaky, lurking candidates, and also pay attention to what the regular posters do say.

EDIT: Bottom line is, eventually town is going to run out of suspects and say "hey, let's lynch the guy who posts the most."

Brilliant.

[FactionHeir]

What ATPG said.

Still, I think Surviving night hits sounds more townie than surviving lynches.

[shlin28]

Er... why was my name mentioned in ATPG's long "rant"?

Anyway, surviving night hits is a clear mafia sign, as mafia can only get night attacked by the serial killer/vig, so the host can afford to give this ability to him to balance it out against all of the uber town rules. Giving him the ability to survive lynches makes no sense, as it would destroy the only way a normal town can take down the mafia, making it very very very unbalanced.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I pulled a random name out of my arse. Actually I just needed the name of someone who wasn't posting nearly as much as me, which was.... everyone.


I am getting antsy... let the day phase begin again!

[Quintus.JC]

Muwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I had just contacted our glorious host, and guess what? The 3 lives apply for lynches as well as attempt murders, so I am practically invincible after all. So all that ultra defences were for nothing. Lynch me next round if you wish.

[FactionHeir]

Hmm so Caius has the same special you do?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Muwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I had just contacted our glorious host, and guess what? The 3 lives apply for lynches as well as attempt murders, so I am practically invincible after all. So all that ultra defences were for nothing. Lynch me next round if you wish.

3 anti-lynch, anti-murder, or anti-vigilante lives....

You are most likely a bad dude. I simply don't know why you would reveal this to us, and in such a strange manner. And I don't see why any town character would need so many lives. It makes it near impossible for the saboteur to win.

He would have to target you, and only you, until you died. And then, he would still have to kill the rest of us. And by the way, if you are town, you just revealed to the saboteur that he has to target you every turn until you're dead, instead of that part being a nasty surprise for him.

Exactly whose side are you on anyway?

I sure hope the investigator picked you.

[Thermal]

Muwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I had just contacted our glorious host, and guess what? The 3 lives apply for lynches as well as attempt murders, so I am practically invincible after all. So all that ultra defences were for nothing. Lynch me next round if you wish.

if you have 3 defense against lynch and murder i think choatix would hav made the game very unbalanced, i dont believe you, ill no doubt be seeing how others vote before i do this time, im confused of the situation, hopefully after the night phase there will be more for us to piece together, im thinking very much like el diablo, but perhaps in a more polite fashion, well the night phase should be ending very soon, so we'll see if anyone drops off, but just because quintus says hes protected from all murders it doesnt mean he is, i assume this is merely to avoid any attempts on his life, using reserve psychology by saying lynch me if you like, hes been protesting his innocence throughout, yet we cannot be blamed as he revealed his 'supposed identity' at his own bidding.

And while atpg is also a suspect as we all are, hes certainly contributing to the convosation very well rootingout a killer, or at least trying, we cannot critize him for that
by my count 21 minutes till choatix writes the whats happened!, and i hope hes on time lols

[Chaotix]

The Night has ended. Everyone is surprised and relieved to see that Zemus has not caused anyone to kill someone. However, as they are all sitting down, Tiberius claims that he has a terrible headache. Several minutes into the meal, Tiberius starts screaming in pain. Then, quite suddenly, his head explodes, splattering blood and brains into everyone's porridge.


Dead:
Tiberius of the Drake- Will of Zemus

Still Alive:
Askthepizzaguy
Warmaster Horus
Quintus.JC
shlin28
El Diablo
Elite Ferret
FactionHeir
Aries777777
glyphz
Caius- Survived one Lynch

Let Day 2 Begin. Yes, I wanted to have a big write-up too, but "someone" made that impossible for me.