helping allies in battle

[ArtistofWarfare]

What's the effect (if any) of cancelling a previously agreed MilAcc agreement?

I guess nothing right? As ATPG said, it's simply a program. There's no effect to anything. It's just a coded program and these are not people we're playing with.

I guess as you sit there at your computer screen, there really is no effect to anything. You're just tapping buttons on your keyboard with a graphical overlay on your screen. The actual activity you're participating in would be the same if you turned the computer's power off and did the same thing in your chair. It's a program, a game, and nothing means anything.

Of course, I don't know if people would find the game entertaining if they put this fact in the forefront of their mind every time they loaded the game up.

So - some people try to immerse themselves in the fictional geopolitical world that exists within the game...and try to have a little fun with it.

Basically, all we're establishing here with these repeated posts pertaining to this is that there is no reason for discussion on the .org regarding battle tactics, diplomacy, factions, units, construction, endgame, ...anything. We're basically saying - it's a program and the only thing that really matters is how fast you can call a jihad and blitz peasant AI armies with 8 star generals on turn 2.

It's a shame too because before this obsession with this around here - there were some interesting posts circulating. Now, one has to go to TWCenter to find posts like that. Seriously - we're thinning the discussions out here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

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I guess nothing right? As ATPG said, it's simply a program. There's no effect to anything. It's just a coded program and these are not people we're playing with.

I guess as you sit there at your computer screen, there really is no effect to anything. You're just tapping buttons on your keyboard with a graphical overlay on your screen. The actual activity you're participating in would be the same if you turned the computer's power off and did the same thing in your chair. It's a program, a game, and nothing means anything.

Of course, I don't know if people would find the game entertaining if they put this fact in the forefront of their mind every time they loaded the game up.

So - some people try to immerse themselves in the fictional geopolitical world that exists within the game...and try to have a little fun with it.

Basically, all we're establishing here with these repeated posts pertaining to this is that there is no reason for discussion on the .org regarding battle tactics, diplomacy, factions, units, construction, endgame, ...anything. We're basically saying - it's a program and the only thing that really matters is how fast you can call a jihad and blitz peasant AI armies with 8 star generals on turn 2.

It's a shame too because before this obsession with this around here - there were some interesting posts circulating. Now, one has to go to TWCenter to find posts like that. Seriously - we're thinning the discussions out here.

I'm sorry, but I have to say something here to correct a misunderstanding we're having.

There are (at the present time) 3 threads on the citadel page, out of 30, that discuss blitzing. And the other 27 discuss other aspects of the game. There will be far fewer discussions of blitzing as you go further back.

It's ok to dislike blitzing, but you know, we are allowed to talk too. And out of the 3 discussion threads on blitzing, you've made it clear you dislike the concept on all of them. Point taken. There's no need to bring it up here as well.

[ArtistofWarfare]

The point is that just a short time ago - there wasn't even one thread on it.

It was never a TW term. Not until a few people showed up here a short time ago and started these "blitz challenges".

I just want you to understand that. It's like going to a first person shooter forum and giving "grenade kill challenges" because "aaaargh i love to see things blow up!!!! I NEEED to see explosionss!!!!".

It's like a form of trolling since it has nothing to do with the game. It's a game within a game, that exists within some player's heads.

Go ahead with it (as you will) but ...can it end at some point? When you've taken 112 provinces in 3.2 seconds after 4,585 hours of play time - Is it done then?

[Askthepizzaguy]

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No, it's not a form of trolling. What you just did is in fact a form of trolling.

That was off-topic.

And some people like to discuss turtling, or building their economy, or creating house rules, or doing an assassination only campaign, or a chivarly-strategy campaign. Others, like myself, enjoy most of those things but also post on the topic of blitzing. And it's all part of the wonderful experience that is life, such that people with different tastes can all have what they want and still get along.

I am asking nicely, please allow us to enjoy our playing style, as it certainly doesn't detract from your enjoyment of your game.

[ArtistofWarfare]

Expressing my opinion doesn't ruin your enjoyment of the game either.

I mean clearly: You've played 4800+ hours. You couldn't do that unless you REALLY were enjoying blitzing the AI that you call totally irrelevant.

Now that you've taken 112 provinces in .32 seconds - What are you looking forward to in your next campaign? 113 provinces in .31 seconds?

After that: 114 in .30?

Is that on topic? It pertains to blitzing.

For the record: Sorry, but I do think that "aarrrrrrrrrrgggh I need to blitz!!! I can't control myself!!! I have to just take 4 stacks of spearman and crush the world!!!!!! AAAAARRRRRGHHHH!!! I'm a pizza man!!!! AAAARRRRRGHHH!!! CONQUEST BLOOD Console Exploits!!!! I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Total War" is a little bit off topic itself...yes.

You must realize: There are a lot of new players who come to these forums daily. When they read the posts of someone who hasn't moved out of their chair in 6 weeks and has played total war beyond the point that the developers even thought was humanly possible, and holds the opinion that the AI is "worthless" and "dumb beyond belief" and "there's no point to the campaign but to blitz since there's ZERO chance of you not winning the game on VH/VH anyway!!!" - yes, it has an impact on their enjoyment of the game.

You can spend 98 percent of your time in your chair and memorize literally every line of code in the programming, every settlement on the map, every event that transpires during a campaign, every unit's stats, etc - and still acknowledge that THIS has more to do with your "success" on the campaign map than what an utterly horrible, useless, pointless campaign AI the developer's have bestowed upon us.

To the brand new player, VH/VH can be a significant challenge. So can M/M. Look around the internet- there are a lot of players enjoying the game and finding it challenging. When they've completed hundreds of campaigns and their chair has a 3 foot well sunk into it from them sitting their, they'll probably be a lot better at the game and when it becomes painfully easy - they'll probably just move on.

I mean, if the AI is so horrible and there is NO chance that anyone with an IQ of 30 or higher could lose the campaign - Why are we touting these blitzes so much? A chimpanzee could blitz the campaign map...so what is there to see here?

p.s.- Remember, this thread is regarding helping allies in battle. You chimed in with some thought you have about programs and how they're not people and that you have some kind of mental rush when you sit down to the game and begin shaking uncontrollably at the thought of blitzing the map. That's off topic, not the guy explaining to you that you're off topic.

[FactionHeir]

Alright, I'd like to stop that right there. Keep on topic and do not attempt to attack another player, or face the consequences. You have been warned.

[ArtistofWarfare]

Alright, I'd like to stop that right there. Keep on topic and do not attempt to attack another player, or face the consequences. You have been warned.

I'm just tired of the "LOLZZZZZ" and "omgz why would you TURRRTLE!!!?" garbage that shows up 3 times a day now.

It wasn't here 2 months ago. The .org existed for years without seeing one post like this. Now we have a few former WoW/CS kiddies around and - well some of us think it's lowering the quality of the forums slightly.