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    The “don’t want a baby, don’t get pregnant” stance is a lame one EMFM. It’s like saying if you don’t want to get in a car accident then don’t drive a car. Accidents happen.

    You don’t like abortions; I get it, but don’t back it up with that piece of straw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi View Post
    The “don’t want a baby, don’t get pregnant” stance is a lame one EMFM. It’s like saying if you don’t want to get in a car accident then don’t drive a car. Accidents happen.

    You don’t like abortions; I get it, but don’t back it up with that piece of straw.


    Um, Car accidents happens, sometimes there nothing you can do about it. But Sex, usally there is. Don't Have Sex Dachi. If you a man, which a lot of us here are, I don't think we need to worry about being raped by a women .


    Just don't have Sex. Just Keep it in your Pants, or if you a women, cut the thing off if he trys to stick it in, plan and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|3|AntiWarmanCake88 Toyosada88 View Post
    If you a man, which a lot of us here are, I don't think we need to worry about being raped by a women .
    uhm....completely disparate from the discussion at hand...but I would say this is unlikely maybe but not impossible.
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    Abortion is an ugly topic, I'm generally not in favour of it, especially not when it's just for the convenience of some spoiled western brat but I can see how it might make sense now and then.
    You know when I point a gun at a friend and pull the trigger just for fun and I happen to hit and kill her that's an accident as well.
    The point of sex is to get kids(basically, I know it's also fun but biologically speaking that's not the whole point of it) so if you actually become pregnant from sex I wouldn't call that an accident, the point of cars however, is not to crash them into one another...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Abortion is an ugly topic, I'm generally not in favour of it,
    I don't think anyone is in favour of abortion. Never come across someone handing out leaflets encouraging people to abort pregnancies.


    You know when I point a gun at a friend and pull the trigger just for fun and I happen to hit and kill her that's an accident as well.
    The point of sex is to get kids(basically, I know it's also fun but biologically speaking that's not the whole point of it) so if you actually become pregnant from sex I wouldn't call that an accident, the point of cars however, is not to crash them into one another...
    A simplistic and mixed up bunch of metaphors that isn't really moving the debate in any particular direction
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    Idaho... abortion moderator.
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    I'm happy with the way that this discussion is going. People are beginning to view abortion as homicide - the killing of a human being - more often than they would in the past. More disturbingly, many of those same people are advocating that the specific type of homicide as just and acceptable.

    case in point - the article that I've posted by Camille Paglia says this:

    Hence I have always frankly admitted that abortion is murder, the extermination of the powerless by the powerful. Liberals for the most part have shrunk from facing the ethical consequences of their embrace of abortion, which results in the annihilation of concrete individuals and not just clumps of insensate tissue. The state in my view has no authority whatever to intervene in the biological processes of any woman's body, which nature has implanted there before birth and hence before that woman's entrance into society and citizenship.
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/...in/index2.html

    I believe that this is part of a more reasonable argument for people who defend abortion to have. She is using murder interchangeably with homicide, which is legally wrong to do, but I get the point. This is the discussion that I believe we can win as pro-lifers even though it is enticing to those who are more callous to the question of life. I see the abortion issue as very similar to the issue of slavery and there was a right side in that argument, even though the issue was heavily split. There were tough and convincing arguments in favor of slavery and against the governments intrusion into the rights of legally recognized people to own slaves, beings with few if any recognized rights.

    Anyway, we need to have this discussion until people get it that abortion is homicide. To not understand this is akin to not understanding that a person dies when the state uses the death penalty. How absurd would it be if people started to argue that criminals are no longer human because of location and circumstance, therefore their termination was just that, not in fact state sanctioned homicide. We can continue arguing about whether it is ethical (as we do with the death penalty), but we need to understand when a human life is being taken and view the situation clearly.

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    No sex is not an option. I have a husbandly duty to fulfill.

    If I had to go the rest of my days without sex just because I don’t want anymore kids I would seriously consider euthanizing myself.
    Sex is alright, but wildly overrated to me. Sometimes I would welcome never thinking about it again and focusing on more interesting things, like video games and global affairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|3|AntiWarmanCake88 Toyosada88 View Post
    Um, Car accidents happens, sometimes there nothing you can do about it. But Sex, usally there is. Don't Have Sex Dachi. If you a man, which a lot of us here are, I don't think we need to worry about being raped by a women .


    Just don't have Sex. Just Keep it in your Pants, or if you a women, cut the thing off if he trys to stick it in, plan and simple.
    No sex is not an option. I have a husbandly duty to fulfill.

    If I had to go the rest of my days without sex just because I don’t want anymore kids I would seriously consider euthanizing myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi View Post
    The “don’t want a baby, don’t get pregnant” stance is a lame one EMFM. It’s like saying if you don’t want to get in a car accident then don’t drive a car. Accidents happen.
    Ooh! Sorry, late on this one but it reminds me of an argument I heard a while back: Really your honor, I fell and my slipped into my daughter.

    Accident:


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    if you don't want an abortion, don't get pregnant.

    i stand by that philosophy.
    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_John View Post
    if you don't want an abortion, don't get pregnant.

    i stand by that philosophy.



    That what I say, but that to logical for some people

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|3|AntiWarmanCake88 Toyosada88 View Post
    That what I say, but that to logical for some people
    Not really, I think you should read his reply once more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Not really, I think you should read his reply once more.
    I'll rephrase it - if you're even considering maybe having an abortion, except out of extreme necessity, you should not have gotten pregnant.

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    Those who favor aborting are fewer in every generation, logically so.
    So if you went back 4 generations there would have been more people who thought abortion should be legal ?
    Somehow I think you got your numbers wrong .

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