The small towers do not have a ballista, if that is what you were talking about. Only the large ones, which are, in my opinion, too large to be historical.Originally Posted by Rodrico Stak
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The small towers do not have a ballista, if that is what you were talking about. Only the large ones, which are, in my opinion, too large to be historical.
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No, I think they do. Maybe it can only fire if the tower is manned by archers (as Makedonia a tower fired at me when it was being used by a unit of Toxotai).
As for the siege towers' sizes, I think you're probably right. There was the Helepolis built by Demetrius Polikertes (sp?) for the siege of Rhodes, but it was not by any means common, I would expect.
Attalos Pergamou Mysiakes, Strategos of the Arche Seleukia in Will of the Baselius (WoTB)
Ioannis Kommennos III, Strator of the Basileia Rhōmaiōn in Last of the Romans (LotR)
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I find defending regular stone walls easier than defending large stone walls. With regular walls, the AI builds ladders. With large stone walls, the AI seems to like to build a half dozen sapping points, which are much harder to defend against.
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Are you sure about that? The Toxotai have nowhere to fire from, and plus they are not in the siege tower when it is moving. Not only this, but I have tried to perform the same trick myself and failed.
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The larger siege towers have absolutely fantastic firepower, and can blow away major units on the walls with incredible effectiveness and speed. I wish I could build them for all any any battle, they are that good. I wish I could use them on the defense, too. ;)
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I managed to kill the enemy general with my siege tower fire when I was sieging large stone walls (forgot which city, probably one of Carthaginian)
Enemy general was at the town square and I was amazed at the fire range of my siege tower (and power too.)
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that is incredible if true. shooting from the wall all the way to the town center!
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Good money sink when you've got loads of money and not much else left to build.
It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR
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The smaller siege towers are able to fire arrows, I believe. You just need to select the tower and hit the fire at will button.
Quid ais, homo levior quam pluma, pessime et neqissime, flagitium hominis, subdole ac minime preti?
-Plautus, Menaechmi
Alexandros Syriakos in WOTB
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But they don't have the blue ammo bar. Isn't that what indicates the ability to fire missiles?
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I also have been terrorized by the large siege towers. I was defending on the walls and this thing absolutely decimated all my troops up there before I could even get them out of the way. It's like a machine gun ballista, it's crazy.
Perhaps unrelated, one of my more embarrassing losses was while defending large stone walls. The AI was building sap points, so I placed all my units at the place where I thought the holes in the wall would be. The problem arose when the sappers brought down the walls, instantly flattening all of my troops who were standing too close to the falling debris i guess. I had no idea what happened at first, and then i saw the funny looking piles of bodies
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