Large Stone Walls

**Aemilius Paulus** · 09-21-2008, 00:54

Originally Posted by Rodrico Stak

No, I think they do. Maybe it can only fire if the tower is manned by archers (as Makedonia a tower fired at me when it was being used by a unit of Toxotai).

Are you sure about that? The Toxotai have nowhere to fire from, and plus they are not in the siege tower when it is moving. Not only this, but I have tried to perform the same trick myself and failed.

**Danest** · 09-21-2008, 01:12

The larger siege towers have absolutely fantastic firepower, and can blow away major units on the walls with incredible effectiveness and speed. I wish I could build them for all any any battle, they are that good. I wish I could use them on the defense, too. ;)

**Beefy187** · 09-21-2008, 01:40

I managed to kill the enemy general with my siege tower fire when I was sieging large stone walls (forgot which city, probably one of Carthaginian)
Enemy general was at the town square and I was amazed at the fire range of my siege tower (and power too.)

**craziii** · 09-21-2008, 18:23

Originally Posted by Beefy187

I managed to kill the enemy general with my siege tower fire when I was sieging large stone walls (forgot which city, probably one of Carthaginian)
Enemy general was at the town square and I was amazed at the fire range of my siege tower (and power too.)

that is incredible if true. shooting from the wall all the way to the town center!

**QuintusSertorius** · 09-21-2008, 18:50

Good money sink when you've got loads of money and not much else left to build.

**Skandinav** · 09-21-2008, 20:56

I rarely build large stone walls anywhere save occasionally at my capital, mainly because I find them ugly and it would be a shame to overlap those great EB oppida-ish city-walls found in celtic and iberian settlements and I also prefer sieges with both ladders and towers.

**Centurio Nixalsverdrus** · 09-21-2008, 23:35

Build great stone walls for roleplay reasons in your capital for example or very important cities.

Yes small siege towers do have ballistae too. Funny that it took me years of RTW and EB gaming without even noticing until I read about it on the forum...

I don't think the siege towers are overpowered. Indeed siege towers were extremely sophisticated works of the best engineers of their era, with multiple "calibres" of ballistae attached to various levels and a giant wheel driven by oxen inside the basement which propelled the whole tower over some kind of gear.

**Incitatus** · 09-21-2008, 02:53

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

Are you sure about that? The Toxotai have nowhere to fire from, and plus they are not in the siege tower when it is moving. Not only this, but I have tried to perform the same trick myself and failed.

The smaller siege towers are able to fire arrows, I believe. You just need to select the tower and hit the fire at will button.

**Aemilius Paulus** · 09-21-2008, 04:15

Originally Posted by Incitatus

The smaller siege towers are able to fire arrows, I believe. You just need to select the tower and hit the fire at will button.

But they don't have the blue ammo bar. Isn't that what indicates the ability to fire missiles?

**Grriffon** · 09-21-2008, 14:00

I also have been terrorized by the large siege towers. I was defending on the walls and this thing absolutely decimated all my troops up there before I could even get them out of the way. It's like a machine gun ballista, it's crazy.

Perhaps unrelated, one of my more embarrassing losses was while defending large stone walls. The AI was building sap points, so I placed all my units at the place where I thought the holes in the wall would be. The problem arose when the sappers brought down the walls, instantly flattening all of my troops who were standing too close to the falling debris i guess. I had no idea what happened at first, and then i saw the funny looking piles of bodies