Another School shooting in Finland

[Innocentius]

This has to do with the society at large nothing to do with guns. I can't speak for Finland but here in America I have come to the conclusion that our society makes this happen mainly by the way we retard emotional expression esp. at a young age. I dont understand how people think legal firearms make people go crazy. It doesn't make sense

While I do agree about that society bit... well, to use the words of Bill Hicks: "There is no connection between having a gun and shooting somebody with it... And you'd be a fool and a communist to make one."

[Kadagar_AV]

While I do agree about that society bit... well, to use the words of Bill Hicks: "There is no connection between having a gun and shooting somebody with it... And you'd be a fool and a communist to make one."

I can see one connection... if you dont have a gun, you cant shoot anyone...

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I can see one connection... if you dont have a gun, you cant shoot anyone...

Doesn't matter.... He can still kill with a Knife. Yeah, you can disarm him, but he can still kill.

http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13807

He killed people WITH A KNIFE.... I didn't see normal people disarm him (unless I am wrong)....




(article is about if games cause it, but still explains what happened).

[Kadagar_AV]

Doesn't matter.... He can still kill with a Knife. Yeah, you can disarm him, but he can still kill.

http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13807

He killed people WITH A KNIFE.... I didn't see normal people disarm him (unless I am wrong)....




(article is about if games cause it, but still explains what happened).

You argue that it is as easy to kill people with a knife as with a gun? Or what?

[Husar]

Thanks for the explanation Krook, I wouldn't call it stress anymore once you cope with it but you're right, that kind of thing sounds sensible, would probably work for me as well.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

You argue that it is as easy to kill people with a knife as with a gun? Or what?

I argue it is easy to kill anyone with both a knife AND a gun, just a bit more easy with a gun then a knife, that's is what. And besides, if someone sneaks up on you with a knife and he is good... well who wins?

[Viking]

I argue it is easy to kill anyone with both a knife AND a gun, just a bit more easy with a gun then a knife, that's is what. And besides, if someone sneaks up on you with a knife and he is good... well who wins?

Compare the two scenarios:

1. a student with a gun enters a room and starts firing

2. a student with a knife enters a room and stabs a fellow student, and then tries to make his way to his next victim.

now give it a thought. A bit more easy you say?

[Kadagar_AV]

I argue it is easy to kill anyone with both a knife AND a gun, just a bit more easy with a gun then a knife, that's is what. And besides, if someone sneaks up on you with a knife and he is good... well who wins?

That is absurd.

As Koga no Goshi stated, imagine if someone enters a classroom and stabs someone... Then he goes on to the next... How long would it take for 2-3 guys to jump him and wrestle him down? You can only do so much with a knife... Also, the initial victims would most likely survive. You have to be really good with a knife (or lucky) to kill someone fast.

Like the way you see in the movies, that is BS...

Now, I have trained Silat... There we practise anti-knife drills hard.

If a knife expert would sneak up on me I wouldnt have a chance.

If a 22 year old punk would enter my classroom with a knife he'd very soon be sprawling on the floor with a broken arm. If I was in a bad mood, he'd have a punctured lung too:)

Imagine the same 22 year old punk with a gun, now, all my training wouldnt help me (well, tbh, actually i would have a reasonable chance fighting a guy with a .22 in above scenario, if he didnt shoot me first).

But that is beside the point.

[Ferret]

Truly sad, looked a nice college as well