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    Default New land battle trailer

    The English version is here.


    The German language version can be viewed here.
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    Default Re: New land battle trailer

    The graphics look awesome, but I'm only hoping the zoomed out visuals will look better than M2. I always felt RTW looked better zoomed out.

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    Looks fun. Hope a cannon ball to an elephant isn't too messy.
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    WOW.... Btw, the zoomed out visuals ARE good in the trailer, and a cannonball to an elephant HAS to be messy. It just HAS to be!!!! Making a cannonball to an elephant look like a clean kill is like trying to make... nvm, it just has to be messy!!

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    Beautiful

    But I hope it isn't as much of a let down as Medieval 2 was...
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    Imagine if the TW series ever got, well, bloody. It would be spectacular! Exploding elephants? Severed horse limbs? Entrails and the screams of the-not-yet-dead?

    It will never happen. But I can only imagine.

    Trailer looks good. God I hate those green arrows.
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    Anyone else think the music at the beginning sounds exactly like the BSG music?

    Liked the look of the troops overcoming battlefield obstacles and firing from buildings. 6th February eh? Week before payday/valentines day/annual bonus. Just need a new PC now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma View Post
    God I hate those green arrows.
    Yeah, I've never been wild about them either. I do hope there will an option to disable them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi View Post
    Anyone else think the music at the beginning sounds exactly like the BSG music?
    Oh yeah. I noticed it way back when the first trailers were released.
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    There will be options for unlimited fatigue/ammo/morale/no green arrows/no banners etc

    Always has been.

    In terms of Marius Dynamite's observation, I have found that M2TW had a much shorter draw distance, everything would be sprites until a very close visual range compared to RTW.
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    Looks astounding.

    And we got a first glimpse of elephants!!!

    One thing though is that the cannons look like they are firing rockets with those white trails, is that realistic?
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    no, Most times unless it was coming right for you, you couldn't it see it. I hope we can turn tracer effects off, its going to remind me of AoE 3.... *Shivers*
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    Anyone else think the campaign map looks crap??? :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    One thing though is that the cannons look like they are firing rockets with those white trails, is that realistic?
    It's not, no. CA added the smoke trails so that players could better follow who was shooting whom. They're looking at adding the option to disable them if you wish (which I hope they do).


    Quote Originally Posted by darrin42 View Post
    Anyone else think the campaign map looks crap??? :(
    Looks fine to me. But then, I've never been terribly picky about the campaign map in the Total War series. As long it works and functions reasonably well, I'm content.
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    If that hand to hand fighting is as good as it looks it should be awesome, gameplay aside that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrin42 View Post
    Anyone else think the campaign map looks crap??? :(
    I wouldn't say crap, but it does look very different from the previous two games. Medieval II and Rome felt like two very similar game to me, Empire looks different and revolutionary. Hopfully it will surpress the two games.

    Good trailer, but the commentry guy's voice was really boring, or at least in my opinion that is.

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    Is it too much to dare to hope that we wont be subject to an AI which expects us to attack through a forest, up a hill, in the rain?
    I don't know about you guys, but both the MTW2 and RTW AI seem to love throwing those at me. And I can't STAND forest battles. It annoys me to no end, being unable to see anything without zooming in to the point where all you can see is two guys poking each other with spears.
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    Fighting in the woods gives me a headache. I absolutely hate it.
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    Yey.. like the land battles..
    It's good to see that elephants are really there..

    (A note to myself... Got to use cannons against elephants in my first custom battle!)

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    tasty campaign map and sexy battles, but they would be much sexier if the soldiers were dismembered and big cannon shots made holes through peoples bodies...

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    Which would cost them their teen rating. Which would limit there sales. Can't have that now can we.
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    Good point. Nonetheless, it is a game worth buying 10 times over.

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    Not necessarily. If the engine can allow men to be dismembered and bloody, expect a mod to come out for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrin42 View Post
    Anyone else think the campaign map looks crap??? :(

    The earlier screens of the campaign map looked poor to me but i must say after seeing the video I'm astonished how lively it feels. I love it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav II Adolf View Post
    The earlier screens of the campaign map looked poor to me but i must say after seeing the video I'm astonished how lively it feels. I love it!


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    yeah It does look free alright. Its just, it looked very small thats all. It briefly showed Italy, France, and other western European regions all together....it looked as if France would only have one settlement by its size lol. But yeah, it does look free..free Euough that you could easily take all of europe over with one Army!
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    I presume you can view the campaign map in 3D? I think the angle changed at one point.

    The game looks great, I would just like to see a video of one full battle, that would be rather awesome to say the least.

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    Looks great, I'm counting days till 6 of February.
    BTW, I wonder about city battles and how do you gain control. With troops being able to occupy buildings, sounds kinda Stalingrad Total War... Unless the option will be disabled for cities, which would be difficult to understand, as long it will be possible on the battlefield outside towns...
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    City battles

    It does look very good but the idea of garrisoning troops worries me. I mean in theory, making your enemy fight building to building in urban warfare sounds very enticing but in practice i'm unsure it won't just make for very very very long drawn out games. I mean if cannons aim anything like they did in MTW2 (horribly) then it will take them forever to hit the building. I suppose you can rush in troops but I don't want to have to rush into 14-24 buildings.

    Over all a impressive video. Let us hope they will stick with the themes of last time and Dev Diary 3 will have something to do with the cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrin42 View Post
    yeah It does look free alright. Its just, it looked very small thats all. It briefly showed Italy, France, and other western European regions all together....it looked as if France would only have one settlement by its size lol. But yeah, it does look free..free Euough that you could easily take all of europe over with one Army!
    Yeah, I see your point. I also want to have a big european map. It is shown in an angle and it can affect how big it feels. Still, the number of cities and regions worries me too. I would like to take pieces of a country and not just one battle and then win the lot. My guess though is that CA has made the game to work in a somewhat different manner than before. We now have naval battles and a bigger world. Maybe we are directed not to fight as much in core erupean countries.


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    I've watched that trailer several times now, amazing stuff!

    A few interesting things I noticed:

    1) Pause the video just as the campaign view of Britain pops up. Look carefully at the top left of the screen and you can see a landmass. This is almost certainly Iceland, and it's nice to see confirmation that it's in the game.

    2) The duelling animation for those soldiers is everything they said it would be. Quick, fluid and interesting moves, all while a battle rages around them

    3) On animation again. The bit where the horses leap over the wall is spectacular. Before this CA have never quite managed to have horses move realistically.

    4) A nice first look at both flag bearers AND drummers.

    5) The animation for dying men is rather good. Ragdoll physics can be awful if done wrong. These look just right, not to unrealistic and not too uniform or boring.

    6) Elephants!


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    are there not ment to be 500 regions on empires? if so i would think eupore will be far denser, perhaps they still have some to add yet...

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