The compassion of socialism.

[Kadagar_AV]

Must you use every thread as a segway to attack America? It gets old. This is about the healthcare system in Britain, or socialism in general - neither of which have much to do with the United States.

Oh come one, if an american talks about "the ultimate affront to citizens" I can not help it.... If you make a volley, I will smash;)

I dont need my money going to fund state programs. How bout that?

This is a WELL THOUGHT OUT answer indeed...

So anarchy (sp?) is your ideal solution?

[Strike For The South]

Oh come one, if an american talks about "the ultimate affront to citizens" I can not help it.... If you make a volley, I will smash;)





This is a WELL THOUGHT OUT answer indeed...

So anarchy (sp?) is your ideal solution?

Why do you insist on yelling in bold? I prefer a government that is ruled by the people and the best way to do that is give the least amount of power and money. When citizens cease to be vigilant authoritarianism reigns.

[Kadagar_AV]

Why do you insist on yelling in bold? I prefer a government that is ruled by the people and the best way to do that is give the least amount of power and money. When citizens cease to be vigilant authoritarianism reigns.

Well, using bad words is not allowed on this forum... Sarcasm however is... That is a way of highlighting the sarcasm. I agree it sticks in the eye, but one has to use the tools handed...


panzer,

And what does the government reading emails have to do with.... well.. anything?

I have to explain it again? is it OK if I just copy and paste my previous post?

"if an american talks about "the ultimate affront to citizens" I can not help it.... If you make a volley, I will smash"

[Strike For The South]

Well, using bad words is not allowed on this forum... Sarcasm however is... That is a way of highlighting the sarcasm. I agree it sticks in the eye, but one has to use the tools handed...


panzer,

I have to explain it again? is it OK if I just copy and paste my previous post?

"if an american talks about "the ultimate affront to citizens" I can not help it.... If you make a volley, I will smash"

All I see is anti-americanism thank you for playing.

[Kadagar_AV]

All I see is anti-americanism thank you for playing.

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imagination*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I am no US basher... I am wayyyy more right-wing than most of sweden, i applaud a lot of things in the US, I have a great many friends over there...

However, when someone talks about socialistic states intruding on citizens, when they are from america who are about as intrusive as communist China, then I can not help but laugh.

It is funny, I have an old G.I. Joe (my heroes) comic... The characters talk about what is so bad about Russia, "The state tracks peoples communication" is mentioned as no. 1 thing... Hello Echelon:)

You have to find that ironic, no?

[Koga No Goshi]

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imaginaton*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I am no US basher... I am wayyyy more right-wing than most of sweden, i applaud a lot of things in the US, I have a great many friends over there...

However, when someone talks about socialistic states intruding on citizens, when they are from america who are about as intrusive as communist China, then I can not help but laugh.

It is funny, I have an old G.I. Joe (my heroes) comic... The characters talk about what is so bad about Russia, "The state tracks peoples communication" is mentioned as no. 1 thing... Hello Echelon:)

You have to find that ironic, no?

Thats actually one thing I like about the internet. It's tossing a lot of Europeans and Americans together in mixed environments. Fifteen, twenty years ago, people just bashed on anything Socialist like it was the absolutely worst run thing conceivable. But you would probably have a hard time convincing most Europeans that what they "really" want to do is privately pay for all thier own healthcare even if they can't afford it, and how terrible and awful their healthcare system is. That's basically what all Americans twentysomething or older grew up with being told over and over, that Europe was awful where you paid huge taxes and had SOCIALIST MEDICINE and had to wait 19 months in a queue to have a doctor look at your broken finger. I don't know anyone (personally) from Europe who thinks America's social systems are better.

[Kadagar_AV]

Thats actually one thing I like about the internet. It's tossing a lot of Europeans and Americans together in mixed environments. Fifteen, twenty years ago, people just bashed on anything Socialist like it was the absolutely worst run thing conceivable. But you would probably have a hard time convincing most Europeans that what they "really" want to do is privately pay for all thier own healthcare even if they can't afford it, and how terrible and awful their healthcare system is. That's basically what all Americans twentysomething or older grew up with being told over and over, that Europe was awful where you paid huge taxes and had SOCIALIST MEDICINE and had to wait 19 months in a queue to have a doctor look at your broken finger. I don't know anyone (personally) from Europe who thinks America's social systems are better.

QFT

I will share a story from "socialist Austria".

I have a friend who just had a REALLY bad break up... basicly, he moved to Austria to live together with his girlfriend (an austrian)... He quit his job in Sweden, he sells his apartment.

5 days after he gets here, she breaks up with him.

He was in shock, did not eat the whole day, only drank vodka and smoked weed...

Now, to set something straight, my friend is normally the most responcible person ever, he never msoked weed, and he drinks very moderatly... However, the situation was.........

I helped him pack his things and stuff, and then we went out on the town to get him something to eat.

He fainted, totally passed out on the street. Suddenly he just crashed down, not breathing.

I called an ambulance and did some CPR (learned it in the army).

The medics was there within 5 minutes, they noted he was dehydrated, and they gave him an infusion...



Cost: 0€



How much would that bad breakup have costed in the US? Or some other capitalistic state?

When I was in the US, I hurt my ribs... I knew the injury was not that bad, however, the ambulance my friends called insisted I would go to the hospital and see the doctor, to get X-ray and stuff...

I was fine, just had a small crack on the ribbs, and got some pain-dampening pills...

I had pay what I earn in 5 months for an X-ray and some pain relievers...

So, basicly, I think europe has a better system than the US.

[Strike For The South]

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imagination*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I am no US basher... I am wayyyy more right-wing than most of sweden, i applaud a lot of things in the US, I have a great many friends over there...

However, when someone talks about socialistic states intruding on citizens, when they are from america who are about as intrusive as communist China, then I can not help but laugh.

It is funny, I have an old G.I. Joe (my heroes) comic... The characters talk about what is so bad about Russia, "The state tracks peoples communication" is mentioned as no. 1 thing... Hello Echelon:)

You have to find that ironic, no?

We are no longer talking about the article but the merits of socialism. I have already stated that I hate my government and they are an oligarchy. We seem to have different views on government. Do you want to add something?

[KarlXII]

Once again, I can see that you are indeed a great thinker.

*I didn't highlight anything this time, I will let people use their imagination*

Seriosly though...

A) Drawing conclusions of a political system from ONE incident in ONE country is... Showing that deep minds have neen involved in the process.

B)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I am no US basher... I am wayyyy more right-wing than most of sweden, i applaud a lot of things in the US, I have a great many friends over there...

However, when someone talks about socialistic states intruding on citizens, when they are from america who are about as intrusive as communist China, then I can not help but laugh.

It is funny, I have an old G.I. Joe (my heroes) comic... The characters talk about what is so bad about Russia, "The state tracks peoples communication" is mentioned as no. 1 thing... Hello Echelon:)

You have to find that ironic, no?

Sweden, Anti-Americanism, and Communism go hand and hand....and hand I guess