Meanwhile I noticed my previous post has many terrible grammar errors. I can't find how to edit it. Please excuse me. I wrote it after long sleepless night!

I also noticed Seuthopolis destroyed by Celts at 279 BC just seven years before the game starts (well I am not good at memorising dates like many historians around me :D ) so the option of changing Tylis to Seuthopolis won't be historical.

But Making it horde like faction occupying some permenent castles seems to be good idea to me. At the time game start they were subject to Ptolemians. But probably they have much more independence than Baktria at 272 BC. Probably making them full ally (like Pontos or Parthians with Seleucians...trade right , military access, alliance) with Ptolemians solves this problem. Well they are also with along with Ptolemians against Seleucians :D

About station of Thracian (Odrysian Thrace) at 273 BC in game terms.... Hmm Triballi... They were also beaten by Celts forced to east and 'pacified'! To represent this there will be Eletheroi Triballi army around -probably south- of Tylis. Tylis is occupied with celtic, celto-thracian army like in EB 1.1. Well putting an expedian force of Tylis to near Odrysian occupied forts will be an idea. They did not attack and destroy Tylis just after they destoyed their own capital. Military might of early Tylis is one of the factor. Second factor is they are continuing to fighting..but with others :D

Well about units of Odrysians. Getae only join Odrysian at the very early of kingdom (5th century BC) so Getae can be only subject nation. I don't know much about game machanics but I try to say they will not be native of Odrysians.

About Triballi... Unlike Getae they never be a subject of Odrysians! But at early 3th century BC they are also beaten by Celts and forced to east. So they are suitable.

Meanwhile i noticed this in one of the previous posts in under this topic;

5.Odrysae Thraikians= Were driven into the Bosporus in 273BC by the Celts. Made a comeback and took Thrace bak in 214BC under the king Pleuratus. Would have some unique units. Daco/Getic,Hellenic/Illyrian influenced culture.
NOTE: were different to the Getae brood
Settlements(to start with)= town on the black sea, Olbia? something accurate.
would be expected to to take Tylis and Uskudama(traditional odrysae capital) from the Celts
Well first part is true but I don't think Odrysians hace Illyrian or Illyrian style military units. They amde contact with Celts and and have celtic influenced units and also Hellenic influenced units. And about Gatea and Dacia I mentioned before.
And traditional Odrysian capital is Seuthopolis and it is totaly destroyed by Celts.

Well What is Odrysia;
It is probably the name of the a clan probably not a separate tribe (is similar to Saka and Saka Rukae) which unified Thrace at 5th BC under a kingdom of a same name. But their Kingdom divided into two. Especialy southern parts known as Odrysia. For 3th BC southern Thracians mostly known as Odrysian people.


List of Rulers suitable for family members at the beginning of EB II;

Seuthes III reign 343-300(?) BC
Kotys -son of Seuthes III- did not reign as a king exiled Prince of Odrysia
Pleuratus II (Thracian) 213 BC-208 BC -Not from the royal line but he is the one who was destroyed Tylis...
Teres III -son of Kotys- reign 255-200 BC

Well Family Tree of Odrysai faction may be like this at 272 BC;

Seuthes (probably death)
I
Kotys (Faction Leader)
I
Teres (Children or very young and Faction Heir)

*Pleuratus (probably very young general at the beginning, not a family member)


bout Odrysian armies. About 1/4 of the Odrysians are are mounted. Most of them are are light skirmishers. So beginning army probably will be similar; With one heavier cavarly and two light cavalry with many (6-7) Thracian infantry.
Here is a sample idea;

Faction leader -Kotys-
Thracian Medium Cavalry
Thracian Elite Infantry
(This one is probably in a fort at coast of Black Sea which represted exiled elite of Odrysai if Faction heir -Teres- is decided to start over as an adult he may be added to this or divided this into two forts)

General -Pleuratus-
Thracian Peltast
Thracian Peltast
Thracian Light Cavalry
Thracian Light Cavalry
Thracian Light Spearmen
Thracian Light Spearmen
Thracian Light Spearmen
(this one represent more 'commoner' folk of Odrysia in plains of South eastern Thrace under Pleuratus. They are also in service of Ptolemians so ready for action! :D)

Well about traits....A forager trait will be great. Thracians were natural foragers so it will be ideal for them...There may be special traits to represent their satiation.

Well it is all for Odrysai for now.