I guess because I live in Va and it wouldn'tve mattered. But man, looking at these two guys, it's hard not to dream about what could've been.
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I guess because I live in Va and it wouldn'tve mattered. But man, looking at these two guys, it's hard not to dream about what could've been.
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I am....
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
For one... I'm not a Republican, which in Louisiana is the only party (including Libertarian and Green) which doesn't allow independents to vote in their primaries.
I think it's because they hate everyone who isn't a republican. Or maybe because they think that independents in Louisiana are all left over "Longmen," singing "Every man a King." Which, btw, they hate.
My kingdom for a
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Out here in lal-la-land[ss]tm[/ss] we have a write in option on the ballot.
I considered writing in the missus, cuz she knows how to balance a budget, but she's also kinda overly-friendly to animals, so I think I'm going for the constitutionalist.
I'm bugged that he wouldn't ditch the repubs after the disrespect they showed him, though.
Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.
I vote Decepticon.
HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
-Martok
... bc I really don't want Obama to win ...
I think I couldn't get a ride home.
Which is just an excuse for being lazy...
I think I'm going to. Maybe Barr or the Constitutionalist.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
For those who don't know - Ron Paul will be on the ballot in Montana
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
I did. It was either him (conscious) or Hillary (sabotage). Looking back, I stand by my vote. RP represents that tiny, forgotten wing of the GOP that I like. It would have been hilarious to have him in the spotlight as the banks crashed and burned. Paulson would be changing his shorts on a regular basis if Paul was leading the polls.
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If I werent playing games Id be killing small animals at a higher rate than I am now - SFTS
Si je n'étais pas jouer à des jeux que je serais mort de petits animaux à un taux plus élevé que je suis maintenant - Louis VI The Fat
"Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur
Would have if
Koga:
I voted Hillary in the VA primary precisely to up her numbers enough to prolong the agony of the Dem nomination process. It was pretty well known that Obama would win VA, but a lot of us GOPers hoped we could get a delegate or two more onto her side and muck things up a bit. After all, Johnny had sown things up by then anyway.
Moreover, as a favor to Louis, I voted for Hillary since he, her most ardent champion, was a froggie and couldn't actually pull the lever for her. Its always fun when your goals and a friend's coincide and you can help so easily.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
You guys? Again?
Virginia is an open primary state. I can vote for either party's nominee. This year, I chose to pad Paul's tally, even though he had no chance at that point. And I'd do it again.
I was thinking about voting Hillary, mainly for the possible comedic value come convention time. But I didn't, since it didn't seem to be a factor when our primary finally rolled around.
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If I werent playing games Id be killing small animals at a higher rate than I am now - SFTS
Si je n'étais pas jouer à des jeux que je serais mort de petits animaux à un taux plus élevé que je suis maintenant - Louis VI The Fat
"Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
"If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
Albert Camus "Noces"
Yup. Ain't nothing decided until all the votes are in. It pains me to see McCain supporters acting like it's already lost, and Obama supporters acting as though they've already won. I can assure you that people in the McCain campaign haven't given up, and nobody in the Obama campaign is measuring the drapes for the Oval Office. Both sides are too darn smart for that.
Game over man, game over.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Going back to the OP, I didn't vote for Ron Paul because I voted in the other primary. Had I voted in the Repub, however, I would certainly have given the good Doctor my vote.
You quote a classic, sir!
I didn't vote for Ron Paul because I'm an independent. Had I been a registered Republican I would have been more than happy to give Ron my vote.
Unless modern science can somehow reanimate & revitalize the dead body of Reagan (whilst restraining it from feasting on the brains of the living) then New York's electoral votes will continue to fall squarely in the Democratic category for a long time to come (shocking, isn't it). So... once again I am left to cast a 'symbolic' vote this November in the hopes that the political bean counters are paying attention. I'm torn between voting for McCain just to provide a loud symbolic vote against Obama or following my ideological principles and giving the Libertarian party candidate my symbolic vote like I did in 2004.
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"Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?" - Theodore Roosevelt
Idealism is masturbation, but unlike real masturbation idealism actually makes one blind. - Fragony
Though Adrian did a brilliant job of defending the great man that is Hugo Chavez, I decided to post this anyway.. - JAG (who else?)
I seriously considered voting for Ron Paul. But his grasp of economics is childish at best, dangerous at worst. His hard-currency platform would have done the very thing he claimed he was trying to resolve... concentrating economic wealth in the hands of a small cabal. In a fiat currency system, the government demand in the form of taxes is for the currency, not the specie, and therefore any possessor of dollars has equal ability to weight their currency (a dollar is a dollar in my piggy bank or in 1st National Bank). In a specie currency system, only those with access to the specie reserves can recognize the full faith and value of the currency. In other words, unless I've got a gold dollar at home to match that paper dollar, my dollar isn't worth the same what a paper dollar at 1st National, who has a vault full of gold in the basement.
What's more, when you enforce specie currency, you absolve the government from the responsbility of maintaining fiscal policy to control inflation. They can issue paper promissary notes (still dollars, mind you), as they see fit, with no responsibility for the consequences.
Finally, specie currency artificially prohibits the flow of capital between different economic systems, and currency valuations do not track GDP growth. Think about that for a second.... The French Franc was worth much, much, much more than a U.S. dollar in 1830. Do we all think that its a good thing that as America's wealth has grown, the sum total of all of her currency must maintain the same ratio to the sum total of all of France's?
Ron Paul offered a lot of good ideas, but the gold standard was one I just couldn't get past. The only thing worse than the Federal Reserve setting monetary policy for the country is having Warren Buffet and George Soros do it.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
Strike for the South
*Shrug* I just had the impression that if someone on the left mentioned the suspicion that a lot of righties were voting Hillary just to muck up our process, or improve their chances in Nov. as a Republican voter, it would be called hysterical liberal conspiracy theory.
From the right's talk radio and such, it was pretty obviously a tactic a lot of people on the right were using, I'm just surprised you'd speak frankly about it. I do consider it underhanded to intentionally vote for a candidate not because you have any intention of voting for them in the Presidential, but just to hurt an opposing party. Even if it's legal.
Koga no Goshi
I give my Nihon Maru to TosaInu in tribute.
Well, technically I was doing the same by voting RP. Since I'm not registered Republican, was I sabotaging the GOP nomination process? I knew I wouldn't be voting for the doctor in a presidential election.![]()
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"Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur
Well would you have voted Ron Paul if he had been a viable candidate/if he had been nominated? If so then I think that's fine, but I don't think people should ever vote for a candidate in a primary who they would not vote for if that candidate had a reasonable chance to succeed in the general election/made it to the general election. I consider that to be sabotaging the process and abusing the system.
And just to be clear I definitely support open primaries over closed ones. In fact I'm quite happy that my home state offers open primaries.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
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If I werent playing games Id be killing small animals at a higher rate than I am now - SFTS
Si je n'étais pas jouer à des jeux que je serais mort de petits animaux à un taux plus élevé que je suis maintenant - Louis VI The Fat
"Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur
Mind you I am not a big fan of all things Libertarian. My support of Libertarian candidates is as much a reaction to what I feel is the unacceptable and unnecessary growth of government as it is an attraction to the traditionally conservative elements of that platform.
"Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?" - Theodore Roosevelt
Idealism is masturbation, but unlike real masturbation idealism actually makes one blind. - Fragony
Though Adrian did a brilliant job of defending the great man that is Hugo Chavez, I decided to post this anyway.. - JAG (who else?)
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