forgetting any voicemods?

[artavazd]

I called it the Syrian Empire because that is the way it is called in Russia, by everyone and everything. Don't ask why, I don't know myself. Could be because of the fact that Antioch was the capital of it for quite some time.

Please, call me anything but ignorant in history. One could not make a greater insult than that. History is pretty much all I live for. I excel in it and that is my main strength. I never said Russia was unimportant. What I really said, If you have read it more carefully, was that you can call Russia and Ukraine unimportant and it will not offend me, unlike you getting offended for having your country slandered that way. Russia was very important, especially during 19th and 18th centuries. However, some people might argue that nations like Britain were more important. During WWII and Cold War, one would be an idiot to deny Russia's importance. It was a major world power then, with one of the largest and best armies and also with the largest land territory.

I would not agree however that Russia was very important in the 1500s-1600s though. Ivan IV was an important Russian figure and he greatly expanded Russia's territory, but outside of Russia, his impact was very limited. After him there was the lengthy Time of Troubles, which cut off Russia from mast foreign powers, although Poland as well as some other Central European Catholic nations did intervene. Peter I was another momentous ruler but he mainly impacted countries such as Sweden and Ottoman Empire, whom he fought against as well as Poland, who was likewise involved in the Great Northern War. Effects on, say, Western Europe were somewhat significant but not as important as minor policies of Britain or France of that time, for example. There were nations far more crucial than Russia at that time. The first time Russia really becomes a world power was during the Seven Years War and of course the Napoleonic Wars.

For God's sake, don't assume that I do not know who Ivan IV or Peter I was. I probably even know more about them than you, having done extensive research on both of them. They were one of the most famous tsars of Russia, and being Russian I ought to know more than any other foreigner. You know your Armenian history better than me, without a doubt, but I have Russian history on my side. I also specialize in Antiquity as well as European history from the Dark Ages to now. My knowledge of Armenia on the other hand only covers a tiny bit of ancient history, the time between the fall of Sleukids to the time when Byzantine Empire fell (the period I know most about), some fragmented knowledge during Early Middle Ages and quite a bit of modern, 20th century history. I am sure you know the history of Armenia better than that.

It is either you're trying to prove your nation's importance too hard, or your nationalistic ego is a bit too inflated.

Sir there is a lot more Armenian history pretaining to the ancient era that covers more than the time between the fall of the Seleukids and and the fall of the Byzantine Empire. Just look at the link I have posted in the above post, and check out the scholars that I have mentioned in that post as well. The mentioning of Armenia-Armani is found on Akkadian tablets dating to around 2300 BC. This exact tablet is found in the Museum in London. Also the Sumerians make mention of the land of Arata(Ararat) they talk of extended trade with the people of Arata. Also mention the skilled stone crafters that came to Sumeria and worked on their ziggurats.

I suggest for the sake of knowledge to check out the works of the above mentioned scholars. This is new scholary work and findings based on Archeology, Lingustics, and historical primary sources.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Sir there is a lot more Armenian history pretaining to the ancient era that covers more than the time between the fall of the Seleukids and and the fall of the Byzantine Empire.

Yeah, I know that. That is why I said I know only this period, to emphasize the gaps in my knowledge of Armenian history. My pre-Seleukid knowledge of the history history of Armenia is very basic, with only the knowledge of the most important events.

[blitzkrieg80]

from what i can tell, we're all in agreement we just like to talk.

artavazd, cool .pdf link, thanks - enjoyable read.

[artavazd]

from what i can tell, we're all in agreement we just like to talk.

artavazd, cool .pdf link, thanks - enjoyable read.

Your are welcome sir. That article is based on the works of Colin Renfrew, Vyacheslav Ivanov, Thomas Gamkrelidze, Atkins and Gray

[artavazd]

Yeah, I know that. That is why I said I know only this period, to emphasize the gaps in my knowledge of Armenian history. My pre-Seleukid knowledge of the history history of Armenia is very basic, with only the knowledge of the most important events.

That is very understandable. Since recently not a lot of study has gone into the very ancient history of Armenia. The possibilites of scholars doing seriouse work on the subject was just not there. Now there is intrest in the subject, and the scholars that I mentioned have done seriouse work on this very matter.

ps: If you have interest (or anyone else for that matter) on the very Ancient history of Armenia and Armenians there is a book that was published I think in 2006 by Boris Baratov (it is in English) the name of the book is The Armeniad

[Anastasios Helios]

*pours water on the flames here*

I'm available to help with an English voice mod...if it's needed XD

[gamegeek2]

OK, is there any preview for a Punic/Semitic voice mod? Though historically general orders were given in Greek by the Carthaginians, I'm sure officers of Liby-Phoenician, Libyan, and the elite Phoenician units gave orders in Punic for the most part. I'm sure Sabaean orders were native-only, except Ethiopian units.

Eimi ad Europa Barbarorum leidan

[Pontius Pilate]

First of all your comment that I have made in bold is offensive. I will however tell you this in the Long and I mean very long history of Armenia many nations that you might view as "more important" have tryed to do just that. However they have all failed miserably, and many of those "important" nations do not even exist today. While Armenia has kept its traditions and culture alive for over three thousand years. Now my friend I think that in itself makes Armenia a very important nation.

You need to do more research MUCH MUCH more research. FIrst of all what is it that the Seleukids did that outweighs over 3000 years of Armenian history?? Where are the Seleukids?? Erebuni which is modern Yerevan was built in 782BC 29 years before the name Rome even existed. Armenian art and arcitecture have added much wealth to Human civilization. European gothic churches were inspired by Armenian Church architecture. Armenia was one of the centers of the Neolithic agricultural revolution not to mention irrigation, and metalurgy

No offense, but I don't think you can compare the influence Rome had on the world with Armenia. So what if ancient Roman civilization no longer exists. It has left a legacy that is remembered to this day by people all over the world. When you mention ancient Rome almost anyone can identify with what you're talking about, but when you mention Armenia hardly anyone even knows that country even exists today.

[Anastasios Helios]

No offense, but I don't think you can compare the influence Rome had on the world with Armenia. So what if ancient Roman civilization no longer exists. It has left a legacy that is remembered to this day by people all over the world. When you mention ancient Rome almost anyone can identify with what you're talking about, but when you mention Armenia hardly anyone even knows that country even exists today.

Kyrie Elesion! Armenia is a wonderful country with a long history of survival in the face of overwhelming odds. Armenia survived attacks from Persians, Greeks/Byzantines, Romans, Seljuks, Ottomans, Russians, etc. for many many centures and their culture and civilization is still there intact. If you were Armenian or Pontian or Georgian, what would "Roman Civilization" mean to you? It depends only on location. To an Italian or Romanian person, Roman culture and civilization probably means alot...I'm sure that people in Eastern Anatolia, Armenia, or the Caucausus region finds Armenian civilization to be just as important as Roman civilization is for Westerners...