No better than them

[PanzerJaeger]

PJ you can defend them all you want but the fact is you got what you deserved,

I completely agree. Any nation that starts a war that it cannot win deserves what it gets. The Germans had the ability to win, and let political mismanagement hold them back - much like the US in Vietnam.

I'm just tired of hearing about Allied moral superiority, which was thoroughly pissed away in the ruins of Dresden and Nagasaki.

1 American life would've been to much in an invasion of Japan.We had the weapons and we used them. Good I say.

You wouldn't be defending murder, would you? And can we please get over the notion that the atom bombs were used for any other reason than to influence the soviets?

I really am sick of how some people feel the need to bring the Allies down.

I'm just bringing them down to reality.

The Japaneese and Germans exterminated people they thought were "less" and now you want me to feel bad for you?

Nope. I want you to realize that the Allies exterminated people for show, after they had already been defeated. How is that any better?

And since we're coming to terms with reality, can we please dispense with the notion that the Holocaust was anything other than a sad footnote of WW2? The vast majority of Germans and Allies did not know of the extent of the Holocaust, and were certainly not fighting for reasons having anything to do with it. Only after the war did knowledge of it reach the general populaces of these nations, yet somehow many believe that WW2 was a grand effort to save the Jews from extermination.

You started the most destructive war in history and you want me to say "its cool man we did some bad things to" No we should've run the NAZIs into the ground and then taken the fight to the Reds just like Patton wanted.

Aside from Papa Joe himself, no one killed more communists than the German Army.