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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    So you don't hate Gays, but you think insinuating someone is one is a good insult?

    There's a fundamental disconect there.

    Maybe you just put too much effort into hating and insulti ng people.
    Insults are spontenaous.

    @Frags: yes it will probably cause a stir in the oublic, all public insults usually do(like "ginger rodent"), but for crying out loud, we've all said stuff like that. I'm a leftie, and I see no racism in a guy who refers to a guy he dislikes as a "black ". Now, if he was to refer to all africans that way, I'd go for racism.

    But seriously, if someone knocks a friend or yours down for no reason, then you are allowed to not like him and call the bastard names. I actually believe being a little emotional from time to time can be very healthy for your overall mental health....
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    A rodent is a pest, pests should be exterminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Insults are spontenaous.

    @Frags: yes it will probably cause a stir in the oublic, all public insults usually do(like "ginger rodent"), but for crying out loud, we've all said stuff like that. I'm a leftie, and I see no racism in a guy who refers to a guy he dislikes as a "black ". Now, if he was to refer to all africans that way, I'd go for racism.

    But seriously, if someone knocks a friend or yours down for no reason, then you are allowed to not like him and call the bastard names. I actually believe being a little emotional from time to time can be very healthy for your overall mental health....
    surprisingly, i find myself with horetore here.
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    Even if HoreTore is right in that we could be more relaxed about these things, the point about the double standard still stands. What would the reaction have been if Palin had a rush of blood to the head and called Obama a "dumb nigger" or something like that?
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    This was a speech, was it not? I imagine it had several drafts before being finalised. No hot headed outburst here, but a rodent-themed speech.

    Dumb nigger would be inappropriate as he is not dumb. Aloof, disconnected, arrogant would all be more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Even if HoreTore is right in that we could be more relaxed about these things, the point about the double standard still stands. What would the reaction have been if Palin had a rush of blood to the head and called Obama a "dumb nigger" or something like that?
    Horetore is right in so far that rightwingers should be used to insult by now. I would absolutely considder it racist if someone calls a black a black , and I would be pretty shocked if a politician did so. I'm all 'get over it' as well it's normal leftists get poisonous when you don't agree, but it really really annoys me nevertheless

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    Arriving somewhat late to the flamewar party, I would like to make two comments and a couple of observations:

    Comment:
    1. Quite happy for Hattie Harman to be thrown to the wolves.
    2. Oh dear, Labour is really not going to make the most of the weaknesses of the Coalition if this is their idea of opposition.

    Observations, extra to the earlier mentioned "lack of soul" possessed by ginger people, I have it on hearsay good information that:
    1. they are more aerodynamic than non-gingers
    2. they smell of pee

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    They have a lower density of hair follicles....

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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    The red hair makes them predisposed to sin and they should all be rounded up and sent to new zeeland. Where they can only hurt kiwis. Im ok with that
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    New Labour has enormous form on hypocrisy. This is not the first time that Harriden Harperson has got bent out of shape. Remember her calls for all women shortlists? That is, of course, unless you are her husband and want to get a safe seat in Parliament.

    Then there's racist Dianne Abbott, who thinks that black mothers are superior to other colours of mothers.

    Don't even mention the fact that these bastards who hobbled the working classes by abolishing grammar schools send their kids to fee paying schools. So it's ok to discrininate against merit as long as you have the money. Very council house I'm sure.

    I recall a post a few years ago, by English assasin if memory serves. It recounts the cabinet room the day after the Freedom of Information Act came into force. One cabinet member turned to another and said, "What! You mean it applies to us?"

    Says it all.

    The modern left movement gets itself in all sorts of knots. Promotiing 'wimmins issues' unless they come into conflict with 'multiculterism'. So that female circumcision is promoted as culterally diverse, as is covering them up in a bin bag. It must be hell to live inside a lefties head. It makes me dizzy just thinking about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Even if HoreTore is right in that we could be more relaxed about these things, the point about the double standard still stands. What would the reaction have been if Palin had a rush of blood to the head and called Obama a "dumb nigger" or something like that?
    You mean we haven't seen enough "Obama is Hitler"-signs by now....?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    You mean we haven't seen enough "Obama is Hitler"-signs by now....?
    Oh common, it's stupid but it isn't exactly new to call political opponents Hitler. I don't agree with it but the left certainly is better at handing it out than recieving. Clue 'Ginger rodent'

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    You mean we haven't seen enough "Obama is Hitler"-signs by now....?
    Not being held by a mainstream politician, no, that is the whole point...
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Not being held by a mainstream politician, no, that is the whole point...
    Ah yes, I forgot; right-wingers prefer to just praise the ones who hold the signs, being too cowardly to say the actual words themselves....

    Because that's so much better.


    EDIT: And this thread is, of course, a shining example of how conservatives never fling insults at their political opponents....or something....
    Last edited by HoreTore; 11-01-2010 at 18:40.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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