Preview: The Qarthadastim

[[cF]HanBaal]

I think the representation is good, but i hope it does not affect other parts of the ancient world and their representation. I am of the opinion that a Permanent Stone Fort could do the same thing and represent the nuraghi resistance in the interior of the island, without using a province. Still as i said i do not disagree with the team decision, i just hope that there is enough provinces to represent the rest of the world with the same level of detail.

Exactly my thoughts. A precedent has been made and what will happen in the rest of the map remains to be seen. I didn't even know about this possibility of Permanent Stone Forts who would indeed be a better solution too in my opinion.

I think what the team wants, and made a priority of, is to represent the Nuraghi native population and their hinterland in both isles who remained virtually unconquered by 272BC. And that is great. But by doing that they will eliminate the importance of Corsica since now if you conquer Nora in southern Sardinia automatically (coastal) Corsica goes into your hands (?) which is peculiar at least. This would also clash with the history of both islands as i already mentioned (until the battle of Alalia, Corsica was in greek hands and Sardinia was in phoenician hands; in the first punic war romans took Corsica briefly but never Sardinia; the population in coastal Sardinia was basically phoenician while in Corsica was a mix of greeks, etruscans and phoenicians; even the revolts of the native population in both islands were not simultaneous i believe).

Concluding, any of the solutions will not be perfectly balanced but with the possibility of Permanent Stone Forts - one on the hinterland of each island, remaining 2 provinces to represent the coastal colonies of each island - it would get as close to perfection as it could, IF these Permanent Stone Forts represent more than a simple military presence. Question: By conquering them, the province in which they stand will get additional bonuses (law, happiness, trade, farming)?

@cf hanbaal i really can´t wait for the arevaci preview ^^ altough i suspect they will be one of the hardest factions to jumpstart once on their way they should give a iberian/celtic flavour to the game

The Arevaci and the Numidians will add a LOT of fun to the area and to both Karthadastim and Lusotannan campaigns. Right as it should have been since EB1. But the greek/eastern lobby was too strong in the team by then ehehe

tell that to phyrrus and hannibal ;)
sometimes i really AM curious how the world would look like had hannibal been properly supported by the carthagian council....

That sir, is the billion dollar question. Incredible decisions were made by then. It wasn't lack of resources who stopped Hanno's party from supporting Hannibal in Italy as he requested right after Cannae, sending his younger brother Mago to Karthadast personally. Instead Hanno sent a large army under Hasdrubal Gisgo to Iberia to take control there (and disrupt the solid Iberian alliances with Hannibal's brother Hasdrubal who was in perfect control of the whole region and also militarily successful till then. Polybius describes this perfectly); at the same time he also sent another large (unsuccessful) expeditions to Sicily and Sardinia (read somewhere that as much as 500 ships were in that one). Maybe Zarax has access to more information on that Sardinian invasion.

Concluding, the resentment from Hanno and his ruling party to Hannibal's father coming from the 1st Punic War/Mercenaries War, as well as, in my opinion, envy for their enourmous successes, both father and son, was the key factor for this war's fate.


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