Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
Well part of school is also to teach a kid that it can't always get its way in a slightly more persistent fashion than parents can. Requiring co-operation, school rules and such like. At some point some value loaded statements, aka morals are going to slip into that mix.
No. I still do not have to teach them "in a more persistant fashion", you're confusing that with something else, which is having rules for how we behave at school. At school, everyone is required to follow the rules of the school, and in the classroom, I am 100% in charge and the rules I make are the rules that apply(actually I make them together with the students, but that's another discussion). How they feel they can behave, how their parents want them to behave, how they feel they should behave in life elsewhere, none of that is any of my concern. I care about what happens inside my classroom, and inside my classroom no other rules apply. Do I care whether they follow my rules in other parts of their lives? Nope, don't care at all. All I care about is when they're in my custody, they live by my rules.

If Frags wishes to be violent for example, he is free to do so, except when he's in my care.

Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
Anyway back to the point at hand: if a church can show itself to be a charity why should it be treated from any other charity? If it can't, then donations should not be tax deductible nor should that church be exempt from various other taxes.
How can they ever be treated as a charity? If Shell opens up a division that runs a free hospital in Africa or whatever, will that excempt them from taxation?