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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I have to say that, although I disagreed with him on virtually every point of view he had, he was open enough to be engaged in a debate. I got the better of him a couple of times. Argumentative? Yes. Troll? No.

    The amount of times that he could just pull this or that UN resolution or some other evidence you care to mention to demolish some peoples post made me laugh sometimes.

    People probably didn't like the fact once he had done that he would then dismiss you and your entire arguement as based on some lie.

    Such robust and skewering debate is quite common in Ireland hence politicians in Ireland have extremely thick skins and take no notice of it.


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    Can't you just pop down the road or something...
    Tribes was a builder if I remember correct doubt he has time to post here anymore I seriously doubt WArman was anything other than a mild irritation to him.

    It's a hour an a half drive to Galway and it looks like rain tonight a text should do.
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    Tribesman was a troll and completely intolerant of the opinions of others. If you had an opinion opposed to his own he took it as a personal attack and preceded to flame you so that no real discussion could take place. When he was around things were 'exciting' because there was lots of trolling, flaming, and fighting. Unfortunately, he would discourage any real debate, and instead just troll and flame everyone else away.
    Meh, The man brought the facts.

    I swear to god asking for a link these days to back some asserition is like asking for nude pics of the posters mother.

    But when can one excpect from a broad which has devolved into pseudo philosiphy minus the logical proofs.
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    Wasn't going to say it but I agree with Vuk he could get very unpleasant and never presented a view of his own. Good at it, yes

    edit, and I like the current status of the backroom, calm debate over controversial issues. Old guard would love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Meh, The man brought the facts.
    He always had some different angle he brought to a discussion, he was contrary just for the sake of it, I think. I was always waiting for the thread in which everyone would finally agree the sun rose in the east, and he would jump in, call bollox, and tear everyone's points to pieces.

    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy
    The amount of times that he could just pull this or that UN resolution or some other evidence you care to mention to demolish some peoples post made me laugh sometimes.
    My idealized vision of Tribesman in real life: A man with his friends in the pub, typing away on a laptop. His friends included an ex-diplomat, a "retired" intelligence officer/journalist, and a history prof. The group would spend the evening drinking and winding up people from around the world on a games forum. For the lulz.
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    My idealized vision of Tribesman in real life: A man with his friends in the pub, typing away on a laptop. His friends included an ex-diplomat, a "retired" intelligence officer/journalist, and a history prof. The group would spend the evening drinking and winding up people from around the world on a games forum. For the lulz.
    Thats possible Drone my good man Galway is one of those rare places in the world where the mugger is a struggling artist who drags you down an alley to recite bad poetry at you till you crack.

    If you have never been it's quite a small on a world scale but it has culture and art far beyond what it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post


    Meh, The man brought the facts.

    I swear to god asking for a link these days to back some asserition is like asking for nude pics of the posters mother.

    But when can one excpect from a broad which has devolved into pseudo philosiphy minus the logical proofs.
    Sometimes he did, but after a while I realised he wasn't as brilliant as his posting style might intimidate people into thinking. I remember one thread on the effectiveness of militias or something like that, wher he kept doing the bollox and giving vague half-answers routine, and when he finally revealed his point, it was really lame and everyone called on it.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post

    Meh, The man brought the facts.

    I swear to god asking for a link these days to back some asserition is like asking for nude pics of the posters mother.
    Are you talking about Tribesman? What facts? What links? I don't recall Tribesman ever offering a link to support his argument. He simply acted like he was privy to some superior knowledge source that we weren't and we'd take it as "fact". I also never recall Tribesman offering an opinion. He'd create a thread with only an article link, but no commentary on his part. Then he'd wait for his usual victims to comment on the article and proceed to tear their opinion apart. But I don't recall him ever offering up his opinion first for someone else to counter. He could tear up his opponent's argument and the validity of their links, but he would not expose his opinion to attack nor provide links to support his "facts" so that his opponents could question the validity of his sources. I personally found his style counter productive as one could not effectively debate with him. Yet thread after thread, our patrons would line up to take shots at his "tar babies".

    The part I always found most frustrating is that he seemed to know a lot and I felt like he could have done much to win over his opponents to his side of the argument. All he needed to do was to provide supporting links like most of his opponents did - I'm assuming here that his sources were indeed as superior as he led us to believe. Alas, he never took the time to properly educate us on the fallacy of our side. Because of this, to me he was nothing more than a real life Argument Clinic. 'Tis a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregoshi View Post
    Are you talking about Tribesman? What facts? What links? I don't recall Tribesman ever offering a link to support his argument. He simply acted like he was privy to some superior knowledge source that we weren't and we'd take it as "fact". I also never recall Tribesman offering an opinion. He'd create a thread with only an article link, but no commentary on his part. Then he'd wait for his usual victims to comment on the article and proceed to tear their opinion apart. But I don't recall him ever offering up his opinion first for someone else to counter. He could tear up his opponent's argument and the validity of their links, but he would not expose his opinion to attack nor provide links to support his "facts" so that his opponents could question the validity of his sources. I personally found his style counter productive as one could not effectively debate with him. Yet thread after thread, our patrons would line up to take shots at his "tar babies".

    The part I always found most frustrating is that he seemed to know a lot and I felt like he could have done much to win over his opponents to his side of the argument. All he needed to do was to provide supporting links like most of his opponents did - I'm assuming here that his sources were indeed as superior as he led us to believe. Alas, he never took the time to properly educate us on the fallacy of our side. Because of this, to me he was nothing more than a real life Argument Clinic. 'Tis a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregoshi View Post
    But I don't recall him ever offering up his opinion first for someone else to counter. He could tear up his opponent's argument and the validity of their links, but he would not expose his opinion to attack nor provide links to support his "facts" so that his opponents could question the validity of his sources. I personally found his style counter productive as one could not effectively debate with him. Yet thread after thread, our patrons would line up to take shots at his "tar babies".
    So true. I remember once during one of these "debates" I demanded to know what he thought of the issue. He refused to answer, and just assaulted with more questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    So true. I remember once during one of these "debates" I demanded to know what he thought of the issue. He refused to answer, and just assaulted with more questions.
    This is why I think he just argued for the sake of it. That, and he seemed like a cynic of the highest order, if a thread went on for long enough it would come out that he usually had a bad opinion of both sides of the argument. He kept everyone honest, and usually had a "all politics are local" slant on most issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    This is why I think he just argued for the sake of it. That, and he seemed like a cynic of the highest order, if a thread went on for long enough it would come out that he usually had a bad opinion of both sides of the argument. He kept everyone honest, and usually had a "all politics are local" slant on most issues.
    But that's not the same as not having an opinion, is it?


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    But that's not the same as not having an opinion, is it?
    Bollox!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregoshi View Post
    He'd create a thread with only an article link, but no commentary on his part. Then he'd wait for his usual victims to comment on the article and proceed to tear their opinion apart. I personally found his style counter productive as one could not effectively debate with him. Yet thread after thread, our patrons would line up to take shots at his "tar babies".
    lol, it's always worth calling "BS" when you smell it, regardless of whether it was put out to 'troll' or otherwise.

    arguing with tribesman was.......... invigorating, as it demanded a level of mental agility to keep up with his constant battery of abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    Tribes was a builder if I remember correct doubt he has time to post here anymore I seriously doubt WArman was anything other than a mild irritation to him.

    It's a hour an a half drive to Galway and it looks like rain tonight a text should do.
    Are you traveling by stagecoach? It shouldn't even take that long to drive from Wales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Are you traveling by stagecoach? It shouldn't even take that long to drive from Wales.

    But yes, more feisty Irishmen in the Backroom. You've got potential so have at it!
    Typical he looks at the map and draws a straight line mentally to Galway an thinks to himself no prob I'll do it in hour from London, that is a classic noob tourist mistake the roads and roadsigns in Ireland will leave you with nightmares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    Indeed
    dont tell me ye went to the races in Ballybrit and the horror has not left ye how crowded or complicated Galway is Yes/No
    They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
    a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.

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