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    Only if it fits in the cultural backdrop of the venue, or some such. So I'm guessing we would get calls to prayer instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    Only if it fits in the cultural backdrop of the venue, or some such. So I'm guessing we would get calls to prayer instead.
    Not in the Gulf States! If there are public calls, it will be go to the luxury shopping mall next door, or the world's largest indoor ski centre.
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    South Africa, Russia, Qatar. All countries known for their openness and transparent governments. Maybe we should of handed FIFA more brown envelopes?


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    This thread is entirely not full of prejudices, nonono. Is it really that hard to grasp that some people don't want to see the cup in the same stadiums all the time?
    Going by those standards, I would refuse to hold a cup in CCTV-land as well.


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    Nice contrast. 2018 awarded to a land whose people can drink others under the table and four years later to the polar opposite :P

    Seems like if you want something done you need to use Zidane. And maybe some brown envelopes.
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    Still better than Mecca :lol:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    This thread is entirely not full of prejudices, nonono. Is it really that hard to grasp that some people don't want to see the cup in the same stadiums all the time?
    Going by those standards, I would refuse to hold a cup in CCTV-land as well.
    I'm assuming the first sentence is meant in sarcasm. I'll also dispense with replying to your second sentence as its vacuousness should be obvious. Let's examine what is wrong with either the logic or the moral assumptions contained in your argument.

    You compare the kind of restrictions of liberty in Qatar with the presence of CCTV in, presumably, England, conveniently ignoring the gulf between monitoring for security and explicit discrimination against homosexuality. You assume that CCTV invades privacy, yet this very invasion of privacy is completely entailed in a state that deems it right to prosecute, convict, and punish people for what they do in private. You accuse the sentiments of this thread of prejudice, while eliding the exact prejudice which the government Qatar exercises as a sovereign right.

    Are we to be ashamed of being accused of prejudice against prejudice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quadalpha View Post
    I'm assuming the first sentence is meant in sarcasm. I'll also dispense with replying to your second sentence as its vacuousness should be obvious. Let's examine what is wrong with either the logic or the moral assumptions contained in your argument.

    You compare the kind of restrictions of liberty in Qatar with the presence of CCTV in, presumably, England, conveniently ignoring the gulf between monitoring for security and explicit discrimination against homosexuality. You assume that CCTV invades privacy, yet this very invasion of privacy is completely entailed in a state that deems it right to prosecute, convict, and punish people for what they do in private. You accuse the sentiments of this thread of prejudice, while eliding the exact prejudice which the government Qatar exercises as a sovereign right.

    Are we to be ashamed of being accused of prejudice against prejudice?
    Exactly, Qatar has opened it's loving arms for the world and you seem to assume they're going to beat up and arrest all the visitors or something like that. All the press coverage and attention may actually improve the situation in Qatar, plus noone seemed to care about it until now, I didn't see the huge amount of Backroom topics complaining about human rights abuses in Qatar until the FIFA announcement, now it's a problem all of a sudden because the UK and the USA are jealous.


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