Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[Kagemusha]

This is WIFOM. Requesting to be scanned was irrelevant because the GM was killed last night. Since it was not publicly known that Joooray couldn't find the Dark Lord with his powers, the Dark Lord would have expected that he was able to do so. Thus, Joooray could have been killed to prevent you from being IDed as the Dark Lord, or he could have been killed to prevent him from clearing you as the Dark Lord. It is impossible to know which is true, so it is simple WIFOM that should be discarded.

Its not a WIFOM as pever can confirm that i asked to be scanned ever since i revealed to him and once i heard about the "grandmaster" scan i insisted on getting scanned by it. Jooray died last night i have asked to be scanned since..fore ever. I have laid all the facts on the table and then people like Chaotix jump in with their easy bandwagon votes, without doing any effort like for example Tincow is doing. This does again nothing but hides the mafia.

EDIT: Chaotix, then if you werent attacking me and you wasnt protecting Jooray may i ask what were you doing? Killing townies perhaps?Or killing Jooray perrhaps?

Unvote and Vote: Chaotix

[TinCow]

Not at all. If I had attacked you as well, you wouldn't still be living, Sith.

You claim Kage was attacked by two people with the same skill level as him, presumably meaning Masters. Yet you claim you did not attack him. How do you know he was attacked by two Masters?

[Kagemusha]

It would seem there were one attacker using two green lightsabers, one using a blue one and one using a chain lightning. Just something to think about.The attackers attacking me last night seem awfully same as the ones that attacked Jooray the night before. Only that there are three of them compared to the two attacking Jooray.Did a cat cought your tongue Chaotix?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Can't believe you would have voted for me.

Vote:Abstain

I don't feel like voting Kage or Chatoix to death and find out I help vote and killed the Jedi and let the Sith go this late in the game.

The problem is Kage, that we don't know enough about the sith.

I had a case pointed out to me earlier, and I spent over an hour going through writeups and PMs and posts, all to conclude that...it was still possible.

The fact is, we don't know what the sith can or can not do. We know they can't learn light side powers once becoming a sith. It is unlikely that investigations are a light side power though. If we go back and look at the night actions for each night, the sith could easily be investigating, and posing as someone.

Without the dual-GM investigation, no one is 100% jedi, unless force ghosted. Even a sith can become a force ghost, but thankfully, no sith force ghosts yet.

We have 19 people alive, and 3 confirmed anti-town roles alive, who knows how many dark jedi.

Unvote: Warman, Vote: Kage

I'm sorry, but I believe this is the best course of action that leads to a non-sith victory.

[God Emperor]

If what you said is true, that would mean the sith Lord himself is one of the three who got beaten so easily. I consider that an impossibility.

FOS: God Emperor

Zan Finnay's ability to wishstand three attackers with ease points to him being the Sith Lord. It was the Dark One who killed the Grandmaster, as evidenced by the mechanical breathing. Giving scanning results to the town is no defense: A Sith master wouldn't scan his starting apprentice in the first place; it's a harmless way to build townie cred.

For the first part, I guess what pevergreen answered that part. The dark one is the single most powerful person there is.
I don't think I see/understand your last point, but I am dead, so I don't think the FOS will do much good

Maybe you should ask then those results from Beefy as it would seem that pever cant even gather information from his own pm´s. Also its strange no one ever bothered to ask me what i used night one.

what power did you use the first night Kagemusha ? ^


@pevergreen, I will give it another try. You know the blue lightsaber in the writeup? If so, don't you think you at least know the name of one anti town?

[Kagemusha]

what power did you use the first night Kagemusha ? ^

Force Meld- Can be used to join another in battle. (ACTIVE Ability).I have had it from the start.

[Ironside]

It would seem there were one attacker using two green lightsabers, one using a blue one and one using a chain lightning. Just something to think about.The attackers attacking me last night seem awfully same as the ones that attacked Jooray the night before. Only that there are three of them compared to the two attacking Jooray.Did a cat cought your tongue Chaotix?

Chaotix is mr purple saber, who incidently wasn't attacking, with a saber, when Jooray was attacked or tonight. I've even called it out that night, even if the puppet theory have been replaced since then. Better than any other lynch this far for the town.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Kage is throwing out bad arguments and rhetoric in defense

You have to lynch people who do that.

[Kagemusha]

Chaotix is mr purple saber, who incidently wasn't attacking, with a saber, when Jooray was attacked or tonight. I've even called it out that night, even if the puppet theory have been replaced since then. Better than any other lynch this far for the town.

So he is pro town as you have beef with him or is this a WIFOM?

[Kagemusha]

Kage is throwing out bad arguments and rhetoric in defense

You have to lynch people who do that.

Well show me one bad argument mr. I dont know what i am analyzing and voting while dead.?

[Chaotix]

It would seem there were one attacker using two green lightsabers, one using a blue one and one using a chain lightning. Just something to think about.The attackers attacking me last night seem awfully same as the ones that attacked Jooray the night before. Only that there are three of them compared to the two attacking Jooray.Did a cat cought your tongue Chaotix?

Pfft.

I don't have to defend myself to you. You are a Sith and you are scrambling for an excuse to start a bandwagon to counter the one on you. I'm just taunting you to see what your reaction might be, and it is exactly what I expected.

It's plain and obvious that two of the attackers had similar strength to what you should have. Simply put, it is clear in the write-up that two of them used two attacks each- one used dual green lightsabers, and the other used a combination of lightsaber and lightning. This is in addition to the third attacker, who only attacked with lightning and therefore only used one action on you.

It didn't take any inside information for me to deduce that. How do you think I figured out Zan Finnay was the Sith without knowing it was you?

[Kagemusha]

Pfft.

I don't have to defend myself to you. You are a Sith and you are scrambling for an excuse to start a bandwagon to counter the one on you. I'm just taunting you to see what your reaction might be, and it is exactly what I expected

It's plain and obvious that two of the attackers had similar strength to what you should have. Simply put, it is clear in the write-up that two of them used two attacks each- one used dual green lightsabers, and the other used a combination of lightsaber and lightning. This is in addition to the third attacker, who only attacked with lightning and therefore only used one action on you.

It didn't take any inside information for me to deduce that. How do you think I figured out Zan Finnay was the Sith without knowing it was you?

So are we getting bit rambling here. Strange no one else could make that easy conclusion? Also it was i who sayd that i am Zan Finnay. Chaotix you are starting to sound that you are an exellent lynch. At one hand you claim me as Sith because im supposedly so powerfull.Then on the other hand you claim more powerful then i am by saying you would kill me easily and that two of my attackers were relatively as powerful i am. There is word for this: conflicting information. Also maybe you dont have to defend yourself to me, but you have to Tincow, or are you above suspicion?

Still you did not answer to my question.What were you doing last night, if you werent attacking me while you are so sure i am a Sith, nor you werent defending Jooray as the powerful being you are.Is there something there that is hard to answer?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well show me one bad argument mr. I dont know what i am analyzing and voting while dead.?

"hahaha sasaki voted while dead hahahaha his claim that I'm sith is thus wrong"

There's one.

[Kagemusha]

"hahaha sasaki voted while dead hahahaha his claim that I'm sith is thus wrong"

There's one.

I am so used to you howling for my blood that i really cant do much other then laugh. You have been barking to different directions quite aimlesly throughout this game, havent caught any of the mafia that have been found so far and to me doesnt even pay much attention to teh game. Maybe you would like to refute that point and give me an instant reply about what we have been talking today?

[God Emperor]

Chaotix is mr purple saber, who incidently wasn't attacking, with a saber, when Jooray was attacked or tonight. I've even called it out that night, even if the puppet theory have been replaced since then. Better than any other lynch this far for the town.

hm.. Can't help but notice that Ironside and nightbringer or frozen in ice (can't remember) both use this description when it comes to the vigilantes. 'mr purple saber' . Will see if I can find it when going through his posts

Its not a WIFOM as pever can confirm that i asked to be scanned ever since i revealed to him and once i heard about the "grandmaster" scan i insisted on getting scanned by it.

If this is true, then it does blow a hole in some of the theories. Public consensus was that Joooray had these scans.


@ All , I am surprised that it seems like most are against revealing information at this stage of the game... True the enemy may have some use to it, but so may the town. it's not like it is one way and we are not in a privileged situation. Information regarding Ignoramus and chaotix should be made public imho.

[TinCow]

I am so used to you howling for my blood that i really cant do much other then laugh. You have been barking to different directions quite aimlesly throughout this game, havent caught any of the mafia that have been found so far and to me doesnt even pay much attention to teh game. Maybe you would like to refute that point and give me an instant reply about what we have been talking today?

You're attacking Sasaki because he hasn't caught any scum? How many have you caught this game?

[Ironside]

So he is pro town as you have beef with him or is this a WIFOM?

Honestly?

I started to consider a case against him as the purple saber before I died. As an "innocent" townie, my tireless work was against dark jedi and the dark one (who we did have issues to figure out the mechanics he worked with) with a certain blind spot for the Sith. After I died, he just massively enlarged the case against him. So I want him dead, because that means I get a lynch with my scum tell. I rarely got the chance for this. And Beskar gets his revenge.

So pro-town or not? Irrelevant, for my master he needs to die either way. Eventually.
Edit: He is a dark jedi for certain though, mr purple saber have multiple jedi kills on his hands.

hm.. Can't help but notice that Ironside and nightbringer or frozen in ice (can't remember) both use this description when it comes to the vigilantes. 'mr purple saber' . Will see if I can find it when going through his posts

I'm gonna call emerald blade and golden boy for copywright as well.

[Kagemusha]

You're attacking Sasaki because he hasn't caught any scum? How many have you caught this game?

Im just stating how i see he has played this game so far. Also i cant see him posting anything about what we have talked today, as i am quite sure he has not even read the thread.

[Diamondeye]

Well thanks to the person who protected me twice.

it would seem that at least six of the attackers are anti town. . We are 19 left so about 1/3 are anti town. If we aim to achieve town victory coordinated vigilante attacks will have to be taken in use; Attack in bands and use various abilities and forms. If both the dark one and the sith lord has force breath, then there simply isn't the time left to allow lynches to take care of the business. Even duels should once again be reconcidered.

We should also concider revealing almost all information.

There is only three enemies of the town; The Dark One, Sith Master and Sith Apprentice.
The vigilantes have begun organizing; See: The attack on Kagemusha.

the attack on Joooray is the dark one doing that.
the attack on kagemusha... Well I would say Sith. . . We have 3 people attacking him. two of them are the same that attacked joooray some nights ago. The new person.. well if the two other are sith then either they just proved the law of two wrong, or dark jedi are licking boot. And if that is the case Dark Jedi, then you must have been mistaken at some point if you think sith would share victory with you ^^

most suggests that we should go after Kagemusha. With the Dark One attacking Joooray, and Kagemusha fends off 3 sith who uses skills like Ataru, Makashi, Force stasis, Chain lightning, lightning. So if it goes as it should Kagemusha is the Dark one.

I believe none of the attackers against Kagemusha are among the three anti-town. One of them gave the impression of being a Dark Jedi, though.

Actually, I wonder whether or not Kagemusha's guilty. Most of the kills done so far by Sith Lord and the Dark One relied on force powers, or at least I think. Kagemusha seems to be a master of blades, unlike anything witnessed so far. If the Sith Lord or the Dark One had this much skill with the blade, then surely he would have used it more often.

This is the first reasonable thing you've said in ages, Seon, but not enough to convince me of his innocence. Vote: Kagemusha.
Also, speak up, Seon... Do any force ghosts know anything about Seon?

It would seem there were one attacker using two green lightsabers, one using a blue one and one using a chain lightning. Just something to think about.The attackers attacking me last night seem awfully same as the ones that attacked Jooray the night before. Only that there are three of them compared to the two attacking Jooray.

I believe we can conclude that Psychonaut was among the attackers... I don't know about the other two for certain.

I was (obviously) the one who killed ByzantineKnight.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I am so used to you howling for my blood that i really cant do much other then laugh.

I really must confess that some of you people crack me up.
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You have been barking to different directions quite aimlesly...even pay much attention to teh game. Maybe you would like to refute that point and give me an instant reply about what we have been talking today?

I think people should actually read the thread and not just blindly follow the ones who are loudly barking over others.

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[Kagemusha]

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You can find similar quotes also from games i have been town as you are always howling for my blood. So this is like me saying Sasaki is Sasaki. Still i did not get your report of todays talks? Too hard to read couple pages and make objective conclusions?

[ByzantineKnight]

I was (obviously) the one who killed ByzantineKnight.

No offence to your vigilantes uniting thing but it doesn't seem to have worked out very well so far... vig kills have managed to kill 2 sith yes, but each of them has been replaced in turn so no real effect on the sith... and then they have also made a significant dent in the townie population...

Also, its usually not such a great idea to say you organized a kill on a townie... jus sayin'

[Kagemusha]

There is only three enemies of the town; The Dark One, Sith Master and Sith Apprentice.
The vigilantes have begun organizing; See: The attack on Kagemusha.



I believe none of the attackers against Kagemusha are among the three anti-town. One of them gave the impression of being a Dark Jedi, though.



This is the first reasonable thing you've said in ages, Seon, but not enough to convince me of his innocence. Vote: Kagemusha.
Also, speak up, Seon... Do any force ghosts know anything about Seon?



I believe we can conclude that Psychonaut was among the attackers... I don't know about the other two for certain.

I was (obviously) the one who killed ByzantineKnight.

Maybe you should also read my take on scannning me far before i was brought to spotlight? pever can vouch for me on that one. If you really believe that i am a suicidal mafioso helping the town to get to me, then you can vote to lynch me. Otherwise put me to short leach and find out that actually i am not mafia. You can lynch me any point later on. When i can be properly scanned which i have already requested for.

[Renata]

I'd like to see pever's statement on that, personally.

Why did the vig group not include Diamondeye?

[Renata]

Ok, well I am going to stick with my vote: Khazaar from yesterday. I stated the reasons then but can reiterate then if someone requires that i do so.

I'll settle for a link to save me the effort of looking for it.

[Diamondeye]

I'd like to see pever's statement on that, personally.

Why did the vig group not include Diamondeye?

I was attacking someone else, but it was coordinated with the one organizing the attack on Kage.

[Frozen In Ice]

One thing makes me question the Kagemusha case. That Force Meld ability that he claimed doesn't seem like it would be something that either the Sith Lord or the Dark One would learn. Now he could have made up the ability so hopefully the force ghosts can confirm that they've seen other instances of that. He also might have heard about that ability and just laid a fake claim on it to cover his tracks. So that makes me wonder, has anyone told him about the ability? If not, then maybe he has it. Maybe it would it would be possible to get him to use it on someone and then confirmed that he used it. Of course, this is all based on the assumption that Force Meld would not be a Dark Side power, which is a potentially dangerous assumption.

[Kagemusha]

One thing makes me question the Kagemusha case. That Force Meld ability that he claimed doesn't seem like it would be something that either the Sith Lord or the Dark One would learn. Now he could have made up the ability so hopefully the force ghosts can confirm that they've seen other instances of that. He also might have heard about that ability and just laid a fake claim on it to cover his tracks. So that makes me wonder, has anyone told him about the ability? If not, then maybe he has it. Maybe it would it would be possible to get him to use it on someone and then confirmed that he used it. Of course, this is all based on the assumption that Force Meld would not be a Dark Side power, which is a potentially dangerous assumption.

I told pever i had force meld when i contacted him the first time and i can use it to prove that i have it, but for some strange reason this "vigilante" faction Diamondeye mentions, whom seems to be killing innocents is not interested in me showing anything other then dying. Maybe they have the same goal for everybody else in mind.

[TinCow]

I told pever i had force meld when i contacted him the first time and i can use it to prove that i have it, but for some strange reason this "vigilante" faction Diamondeye mentions, whom seems to be killing innocents is not interested in me showing anything other then dying. Maybe they have the same goal for everybody else in mind.

Have you ever appeared in the write-ups protecting someone?

[God Emperor]

I believe none of the attackers against Kagemusha are among the three anti-town. One of them gave the impression of being a Dark Jedi, though.

Really? Chain lightning and lightning, according to joooray, leads to the dark side. and these attackers reminds one a lot of the people who attacked joooray a few nights ago. What makes you say they are vigilantes?

I believe we can conclude that Psychonaut was among the attackers... I don't know about the other two for certain.

I guess that's up to Psychonaut to answer.



let's see. Frozen in Ice

voting habbits and posting style

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I find myself highly agreeable with Renata's argument against Vote: dcmort. At the same time I find it odd that Renata was so willing to drop her reasoning, especially considering it makes a lot of sense. For that I am suspicious of Renata. No fingers involved however; I don't find them very suspicious.

using another persons reasoning for your vote

I'm going to vote: Beskar and unless someone puts together a case against Ignoramus that's about more than just bad vibes it's going to stay that way.

I guess that is fair.

I will vote: Ignoramus and reserve my judgement on Jooray for later.

hmm? There haven't been made a real case against Ignoramus as far as I know. People don't like that he is a vigilante that gives them scummy vibes

Unvote, Vote: Wideeyedwander We've got Jooray's number, it will be hard now for him to do anything without the town knowing. Let's wait and see what happens this next night before we judge Jooray. Wideeyed is a much more unknown factor however.

here you use nightbringers reasoning to decide your vote.. although you say nothing about why he is a good suspect except 'unknown'

Well, pever its quite nice that you follow my every word, but it seems like you're just following a hunch. I'll follow my hunch too, so vote: Beefy.

no reason what so ever

Unvote, Vote: Diana Abnoba After what Ignoramus said I want to hear from her.

Ignoramus says that Diana was scanned as using an ability. pressure on an inactive I guess.

I've backed up since I was FOS'd? Is that why I have been posting the same amount and actually had that really long post yesterday? I've just been trying to help the town analyze what we know so far, while many of the people suspicious of me are doing only the reason "he's scummy" without doing any real analysis of their own.

let's return to this post a little later.

To me it seems that Choatix is trying to deflect suspicion in any way possible to someone other than him. And on the other side of things those scans make Diamondeye seem like he is a Dark Jedi that has force breath. I'm going to go with the former for now. vote: Chaotix

scan says that he has light side in him. I never understood why that would suggest dark jedi. gave a reason for your vote! (that's good)

While I agree with you that the Diamondeye vote based on those scans is a bad idea, these scans are more specific than the older ones, so I could see why pever might have wanted to act on them. All the older ones said whether or not the dark side was present, but they never said how much. I think nearly all Jedi have at least a little dark side in them so ultimately I don't think those scans were too helpful. Here we get a much more descriptive scan of how much of one side or the other there is, so again I see why pever wants to act on it. Finally, I feel that if pever was really dark side, we'd see many more deaths of Knights and Masters than we saw up to this point because as far as I know most of them revealed to pever.

didn't they just suggest that he was a dark jedi?

It is possible that Jooray is a dark jedi: I keep coming back to that "not quite a sith lord" comment. However, looking at the deaths the past few nights, there doesn't seem to be any that we can attribute to him. He doesn't seem to be killing, and he is obviously powerful, so I think he is more helpful to the townie cause alive than dead to be perfectly honest.


Instead I agree with ArpeggiateTHIS, this seems very scummy to me. Vote: Greyblades

following another persons suggestion. yet again.

It has seemed that Captain Blackadder has been trying to make as little noise as possible.
vote: Captain Blackadder

Following Kagemusha's reason

Of the people who are actually in the running to get lynched, I'd rather vote: Autolycus.

Why? it's about time there actually came a reason why you like a suspect more than the next.

There are so many people I suspect that I don't even know where to start. I'll need to give this some thought before making any posts. Going after vigilantes is something to consider. Also, last night some scoundrel used Drain Knowledge on me!

I find this very strange coming from you. You keep many lists, you follow the game closely and yet you have no suspects. If all are equal suspects in your eyes, then none can be regarded as suspects.

Votes

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missed a vote on day 14
, vote and the number of people voting for that person:
Day 1 TheFlax (1) random vote
Day 2: Double A (11) (bandwagon)
Day3: Yarapolk (13) (bandwagon)
day4 : Tincow (26) , (bandwagon)
day5 : YLC (21) (Bandwagon)
day 6: Sigurd (21) (bandwagon)
day 7 : Dcmort (32) (bandwagon)
day 8 : Ignoramus (21) (bandwagon)
day 9: WeW (6) , following nightbringer's reasoning
day 10 : Diana (1) following what ignoramus says
day 11: Chaotix (4) , following your own feeling
day 12: Greyblades (4) . following Arpeg
day 13: Autolucus (8) bandwagon, following God Emperor.
day 14: he shows up but as far as I can say he forgot to vote.

Hints of private communication with ironside

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pever, when did the Mr. Purple Saber Man reveal to you? What name did he give for his character? I personally find it hard to trust him, but I am still uncertain. If we count all of the night actions conducted by someone using a purple saber he did the following:

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Night 1 Kills Beskar
Night 2 None
Night 3 None
Night 4 Attacks Rebel Jeb and fails
Night 5 Attacks Dcmort
Night 6 Kills Beskar again
Night 7 Helps Kill Dcmort
Night 8 Kills Remake

All of these night actions can be plausibly explained as trying to help the town. On the power's side of things, he's used Form 3, 5, and 6, Mind Trick, and Force Push. I think having three forms means that he is pretty powerful, either a knight or a master. So if he claimed a name that lined up with a name promoted to one of these positions, then I would find it much more likely that he is pro-town. However, in most of his night actions, he is described as aggressive which doesn't help his claim. I guess in the end he seems pro-town like, but we still shouldn't put too much trust into him.

As for Jooray, his explanation fits but would also fit a Sith trying to escape being caught. I for one found the description of his battles quite Sith like, but there are a few things to note. First Ana states, "... then you are a Sith Lord" to which Jooray responds "Am I? Not quite, Ana..." I am going to hedge my bets and say this really is true, which does help Jooray's case. However, the way this is stated also makes it sound like he could be something similar...

Second, there aren't any other night kills that match what we know for sure about Jooray exactly. From the last two nights we know that Jooray has a blue lightsaber, knows Form 3, and can use Force Push/Wave and Force Lightning. Though only other kills that have any of the same traits are the following:

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Night 1 Attack on Jacen Sky: Blue Saber, but Form 2 used
Night 2 Attack on Yogal Sec-barr: Force Lightning
Night 3 Attack on Sec-Sar Jor: Force Lightning

Looking at all of this put together, I find that I am more suspicious of Jooray until pever tells us more about Mr Purple Saber Man. Not sure what to think of Ignoramus.

Vote: Jooray

and

Your right that the town has had ADHD regarding lynch suspects. It also doesn't help that the scans have for the most part been unreliable and that we've been flat out told that most scans don't work on the Sith Lord and Dark One.



This is much more interesting however. It seems to me that these scans would be more much useful than other types, but this is the first time I've heard of it. I'd recommend using more of this if possible.

Overall, the case against Kagemusha seems like a decent one to me. The odd scans of lightness instead of darkness, the activity on night 1, the concept that the sith lord would be one of the earlier masters, and the less than convincing in thread defense all add up. At the same time I'd like people to remember ByzantineKnight as well also because of his behavior. Finally, does anyone else find it disconcerting that Mr. Purple Saber has become a lot harder to identify over the last few nights? I hope pever has been keeping his eye on that one.

Ironside

Honestly?

I started to consider a case against him as the purple saber before I died. As an "innocent" townie, my tireless work was against dark jedi and the dark one (who we did have issues to figure out the mechanics he worked with) with a certain blind spot for the Sith. After I died, he just massively enlarged the case against him. So I want him dead, because that means I get a lynch with my scum tell. I rarely got the chance for this. And Beskar gets his revenge.

So pro-town or not? Irrelevant, for my master he needs to die either way. Eventually.
Edit: He is a dark jedi for certain though, mr purple saber have multiple jedi kills on his hands.


I'm gonna call emerald blade and golden boy for copywright as well.

Chaotix is mr purple saber, who incidently wasn't attacking, with a saber, when Jooray was attacked or tonight. I've even called it out that night, even if the puppet theory have been replaced since then. Better than any other lynch this far for the town.

Pever if you're talking to mr. Purple saber, he already got 4 kills and 2 survived, not counting any possible attacks were the saber wasn't used.
The second attack on Beskar and the second attack on dcmort93 I get, but that's one odd record there.

Is mind trick a defensive power? Since he seems to get two defense powers then.



Not seeing that part as obvious in the write up. Several of the sith attacks got "join me" or "only the dark side can fuel your victory" as part of the write up.

Vote: Joorey
Killing to prove your innocence isn't that good of a defense. And we don't know if sith can use a differently coloured saber for attack or not.

Basically they both seem to name the vigilante who uses a purple lightsaber , 'mr. purple lightsaber'

This is something that has only been used by those two and is not a common game thread name for them

Conclusion

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Frozen in Ice:
Follows the game closely and shows that he keeps track on actions and abilities. showed up every day phase and only missed a single vote, yet has a hard time finding anyone he thinks are suspects.

Bandwagons a lot with reasons unknown

when finding a reason for voting he leeches from other people's arguments and thoughts because imo, he cannot come up with reasons why people are guilty (sorry but that's what I think the thread shows, and that is rather common when oneself is the one who is guilty (or sith lord))

Has a strange connection to ironside via their reference to the unknown parts of the game (thinking of the dark jedi/vigilante's)