Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
PJ made the same point. It is correct, one should not confound Ossietzky's incarceration by Weimar with his being slowly tortured to death in a Nazi concentration camp.
But neither should one regard both as separate events either. Ossietzky was released at Christmas 1932 by Weimar, only to be send to the camps a few months later by Nazi Germany, for the same 'crimes'. The Nazi coup was in this respect, as in so many others, not a ceasure but a continuation. A mere intensification.
It still doesn't absolve him from being a traitor.

Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
You're not a Star Wars fan, I take it.
Not really, though I knew most of the things about the clone army, Star Wars is still a fairy tale though.

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The intention was to violently overthrow the peace. To create the possibility of a violent take-over of the German state. The plot was kept secret to the German people, of whom never a majority voted in favour of hard right extremism.
Where were the huge protests when Hitler came to power if the majority didn't like him at all? And how big was this secretly trained army that it could have been used for a violent take-over? How come the families of the hundred thousands of soldiers never noticed or told anyone?

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Did this all benefit Germany in the long run? Well if one considers 'May 8th 1945' the long run, then obviously not. It was a catastrophic game they played. It led to a destruction of Germany that was total, and that was complete - moral, poltical, militarily, economically, physically. Some 'benefit for the nation in the long run'. They were all dead, and those Germans left alive by 1945 by the violence of other Germans and foreign retaliations had a Russian in the barn molesting their daughter. Well done. What a great plot, what great benefit to the German nation!
So you think the intention of the right wingers was to destroy Germany?
And this particular plot wasn't what lead to the takeover by the Nazis as it was reported, that's what this thread is about, isn't it?

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My traitor are the plotters, those who sought to end democracy and plunge Germany into war again. These are the traitors to Germany. The reporter who reported it, deserved a Nobel Prize for exposing it.
Had the allies not removed the Kaiser, then there had never been a reason for the Monarchists to try and overthrow the government again.