[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[classical_hero]

fos:ATPG No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum.

[Winston Hughes]

fos:ATPG No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum.

In some cases, not changing votes is far scummier. This is one of those cases.

unvote; vote: classical_hero

[Rebel Jeb]

Unvote: Vote: ATPG

;)

[a completely inoffensive name]

Also, Unvote; Vote: YLC I'm not going to be 'that guy' who puts his vote on the person he is tied with so that he doesn't get killed. I'm going to be 'that guy' who makes another person tied to the lynch and has to sweat over it as well. More lulz that way imo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

fos:ATPG No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum.

Well this is nonsense.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2530794

Here, read this first round. Tell me who was the scumbag afterward.

Name one game where a mafioso switched their vote a lot on round one. Bonus points if it was a game I was in.

[TinCow]

Name one game where a mafioso switched their vote a lot on round one. Bonus points if it was a game I was in.

So, you're claiming you're not a mafioso because you're acting in a way a mafioso would never act? Perhaps the question should "name one game where a mafioso used WIFOM in round one."

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, you're claiming you're not a mafioso because you're acting in a way a mafioso would never act? Perhaps the question should "name one game where a mafioso used WIFOM in round one."

No, I'm pointing out that his theory "No one changes their vote that often this early in the game, unless they are scum" doesn't have any basis in reality.

There's no attempt at WIFOM in my statement, Tincow, and I know you know that.

It would be WIFOM if I had said "No mafioso would ever do that, so I must be innocent". I never said any such thing. But if someone said "only a mafioso would abstain on round one" and used that as a reason to vote for someone who abstained, and someone pointed out that such reasoning has no leg to stand on, it would not be WIFOM to state such a fact.

[Romanic]

Hi, I'm late to the party.

vote: acin

Talking about steak is useless.

[Romanic]

Updated tally.

4 AKWC88 (Robbiecon, Greyblades, Glenn, autolycus)
4 A.C.I.N. (TinCow, God Emperor, Captain Blackadder, Romanic)
4 ATPG (Thefluffyone93, Yaropolk, Sasaki, Rebel Jeb)
3 YLC (Choxorn, Ironside, ACIN)
3 Classical Hero (Renata, Beskar, Winston Hughes)
3 Double A (Nightbringer, Classical Hero, Beefy187)
2 Glenn (dcmort93, woad&fangs)
2 Seon (DeathisYonder, YLC)
2 Beskar (Secura, ByzantineKnight)
1 johnhughtom (ATPG)
1 Insanious (pevergreen)
1 Skooma (Diamondeye)
1 TinCow (Cecil XIX)
1 Khazaar (Khazaar)
1 Captain Blackadder (Frozen In Ice)
1 pevergreen (Insanious)
1 Beefy187 (Skooma Addict)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughtom)
1 Sasaki Kojiro (Motep)
1 dcmort93 (Double A)
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6 Abstaining (ReenkR, Seon, Nictel, Csargo, landlubber, Jarema)
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44/47 players having voted this round

(Glenn, I removed white lines in your format. This is taking unnecessary space. You can contact my lawyers.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

With the current tally, you will not lynch any mafiosi.

There are 6 realistic candidates for the lynch, nine if you include those with two votes. I expressed my distaste with mass wagons in the previous game, but here there is the opposite tactical situation. Unless you're waiting for a flinch, the time has come to decide who dies, of those candidates, and put more votes on them so that the lynch cannot be overturned.

The only case against ACIN is that he doesn't play the way you'd like him to. It's not a case for being guilty, but cutting your losses. Double A could have put more pressure on me and did not, and as such I'm inclined to return the favor (this time). YLC is the same way. Case on warman is that he's been active elsewhere but isn't voting. Possible he's waiting until the last minute to spare himself but I find such a tactic unlikely from him. I could expect him to get lynched without noticing or saving himself, frankly. Case on me is nonexistent/random candidate.

Classical hero tossing suspicion on me without following up with a vote is inconsistent, and has an outside chance of being motivated by scummery.

As such, the only decent case I see is Hero.

unvote, vote: Classical_hero

[ULC]

I'll agree with ATPGs reasoning for now, although I suppose Warman another decent option in the "cut your losses" category.

Unvote:, Vote: classical_hero

Also, ATPG you should know by now that the threat of death is only a minor annoyance for me. In any case, JHT was a "if I have to pick someone" vote. To many people tied present problems in effectively lynching anyone, and thus reducing town effectiveness. It's day 1, I'd like not to set a trend.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, ATPG you should know by now that the threat of death is only a minor annoyance for me.

It matches your typical behavior, but it was still worth questioning. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[pevergreen]

I'll agree with ATPGs reasoning for now, although I suppose Warman another decent option in the "cut your losses" category.

Unvote:, Vote: classical_hero

The Jedi council shall not stand for this!

I mean, uhh...

If we're cutting losses, we should do as the Yarapolks do, and take one with a track record.

Unvote, Vote: ACIN

I no longer need you, I have others to entertain me.