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    His downfall which led to him to being a one term president was solely because the American people were so outraged that *gasp* he raised taxes!
    His mistake was making that speech, not raising taxes. I think he would have gotten reelected if Clinton had not been able to throw that speech back at him (that, and the late term recession). Bush looked at the numbers and found that higher taxes were necessary, reelection chances be damned.

    And now we are back around to my original point, no one since 41 has had the political courage to try to fix this problem. Politicians all look at what happened to Bush, and decide that their positions and careers are more important. We are .
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    Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
    His mistake was making that speech, not raising taxes. I think he would have gotten reelected if Clinton had not been able to throw that speech back at him (that, and the late term recession). Bush looked at the numbers and found that higher taxes were necessary, reelection chances be damned.

    And now we are back around to my original point, no one since 41 has had the political courage to try to fix this problem. Politicians all look at what happened to Bush, and decide that their positions and careers are more important. We are .
    What was your original point? You claimed that my statement that the American public is different from the European public when it comes to public acceptance of raising taxes was false. I just showed you an example of how a president's rise and fall was because of promises of lower taxes followed by higher taxes. The public then ate him alive. It wasn't because he broke a campaign promise, if you are going to use that as your argument why he failed to gain a second term, then every president should be a one term president, for they all break key promises they made (When is Guantanamo shutting down?).

    Now you say that your original point is that we are because no one has the political courage. Exactly! Because the public ate Bush Sr. alive because of raising taxes when it was needed.


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