Concerning the great worries about the self defence capabilities of Europeans.

[PanzerJaeger]

I don't understand the demands to lock the thread. Why? So we can have more time to read about Ayn Rand's Social Security scandle or claw our way through yet another tedious Israel/Palestine thread?

This and its sister have been two of the most entertaining threads in a while and what used to make the Backroom so fun - people getting passionate about a subject. It is (relatively) new and interesting. If your innocent eyes cannot stand it, don't click through. Vuk will decide when he's had enough and the thread will die soon enough after.

all true, but our part in southern iraq was only half the battle fought, if you want to hear about the other half then read Task Force Black, and see what Patraues and Co had to say about British Forces.

southern iraq was a failure but not by the military, rather it was a political lack of spine to let the military do the necessary to pacify Southern Iraq. blair wanted a quiet life and pissed away SI to get it.

Just to be clear, I was not slagging of the British Military. They are, of course, one of the best in the world.

I was only trying to highlight that the two sides have always been highly critical of each other in the best of times, and especially when things don't go according to plan. I guess you could say that about any married couple, though.