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    Not if daddy what jacked up on opiates and beating the tom out of mum
    Well picking the worst examples from heterosexual couples doesn't prove anything, I never said some homosexual parents can't do a better job than some hetero ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Well picking the worst examples from heterosexual couples doesn't prove anything, I never said some homosexual parents can't do a better job than some hetero ones.
    Well then why should hetero ones get prefrence? Because it adheres to your completley arbitary definition of normal? I can pull 8 African tribes out of my backside they do communal female raising, clearly we are doing it wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Well then why should hetero ones get prefrence? Because it adheres to your completley arbitary definition of normal? I can pull 8 African tribes out of my backside they do communal female raising, clearly we are doing it wrong
    Well like it or not, we have to come up with some idea of what is best for the child. You say I'm being arbitrary but even you put boundaries somewhere, they're implied in this whole debate when we talk about homo/hetero couples raising children. So why couples?
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    I've been part of some twisted debates in my time, but never one as demented as this.

    Having to defend the concept of a child being raised by a mother and father... good God. We might might as well cash our chips in right now and hope the next species does better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    I've been part of some twisted debates in my time, but never one as demented as this.

    Having to defend the concept of a child being raised by a mother and father... good God. We might might as well cash our chips in right now and hope the next species does better.
    No one is challenging the concept of a child being raised by a mother and father, only the idea that that situation is inherently superior to same-sex parenting.

    Here's a New Age pretzel for you to chew on.

    Since the 1970s, it has become increasingly clear that it is family processes (such as the quality of parenting, the psychosocial well-being of parents, the quality of and satisfaction with relationships within the family, and the level of co-operation and harmony between parents) that contribute to determining children’s well-being and ‘outcomes’, rather than family structures, per se, such as the number, gender, sexuality and co-habitation status of parents.[6][12]

    The scientific research that has directly compared outcomes for children with gay and lesbian parents with outcomes for children with heterosexual parents has been remarkably consistent in showing that lesbian and gay parents are as fit and capable as heterosexual parents, and their children are as psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents,[5][6][7] despite the reality that considerable legal discrimination and inequity remain significant challenges for these families.[6] Major associations of mental health professionals in the U.S., Canada, and Australia, have not identified credible empirical research that suggests otherwise.[8][9][10][7][11] Literature indicates that parents’ financial, psychological and physical well-being is enhanced by marriage and that children benefit from being raised by two parents within a legally-recognized union.[7][12][22][8]

    Professor Judith Stacey, of New York University, stated: “Rarely is there as much consensus in any area of social science as in the case of gay parenting, which is why the American Academy of Pediatrics and all of the major professional organizations with expertise in child welfare have issued reports and resolutions in support of gay and lesbian parental rights”.[23] These organizations include the American Academy of Pediatrics,[8] the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,[24] the American Psychiatric Association,[25] the American Psychological Association,[26] the American Psychoanalytic Association,[27] the National Association of Social Workers,[28] the Child Welfare League of America,[29] the North American Council on Adoptable Children,[30] and Canadian Psychological Association.[31]
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    No one is challenging the concept of a child being raised by a mother and father, only the idea that that situation is inherently superior to same-sex parenting.
    And that is twisted.

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    Here's a New Age pretzel for you to chew on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    And that is twisted.



    I don't chew on New Age pretzels: I prefer good old fashioned Common Sense pie.
    I see there is no point talking to you any more. Anyone that loves to talk about how they believe in "common sense" always seems to be the most absurd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    I don't chew on New Age pretzels: I prefer good old fashioned Common Sense pie.
    Enough with these new-fangled crackpot medical ideas! Give me a good old-fashioned, common sense leeching, or give me nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    I don't chew on New Age pretzels: I prefer good old fashioned Common Sense pie.
    There have been many people throughout history who have ignored science in favor of their own conceptions of common sense.

    It's not really an intellectual position I would stake out for myself, but as long as your common sense doesn't interfere with the fact based system that has allowed millions of children to avoid being passed around foster homes, group homes, and Child Protective Services and instead enjoy a supportive family, then I suppose there's no harm in it. Common sense is generational.
    Last edited by PanzerJaeger; 02-11-2011 at 00:55.

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