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    Default Re: Listening to the Jesuits - practical advice on converting to Christianity

    I have to say that based on my Mori campaign I don't see a reason to avoid conversion.

    1. The Nanban ports and quarters produce so much more money.

    2. I'm lukewarm to matchlock ashigaru, but am really loving the european caravels and cannons.

    3. The diplomatic hit looks like it would hurt, but I'm having an easier go of things than with my recent Shinto-Buddhist Date and Shimazu campaigns.

    I mean seriously I have 40k in the bank and make about 9k a turn w/9 provinces at ~1565. Fund five decent full stack armies 50/50 blend between ashigaru and samurai plus six full stack navies.

    I don't believe the - diplo hit really changes things to a degree where a player would notice it. Additionally Christianity allows the player to employ tactics that the CAI doesn't appear to be able to counter.

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    Default Re: Listening to the Jesuits - practical advice on converting to Christianity

    Quote Originally Posted by nafod View Post
    I have to say that based on my Mori campaign I don't see a reason to avoid conversion.

    1. The Nanban ports and quarters produce so much more money.

    2. I'm lukewarm to matchlock ashigaru, but am really loving the european caravels and cannons.
    Imported matchlocks are fantastic siege defenders, are useful in a defensive field battle (providing you can keep them firing and out of melee) -but the wrong tool for an attack.

    The Nanban trade ships are very powerful -with a single tradeship and two bow kobayas(sp?) I routed and captured a full fleet of Sengoku Bunes, kobayas and 4 trade ships.

    I hadn't expected much from canons (given comments by others here) but I was pleasantly surprised. They are reasonably accurate enough to snipe at generals but not having much ammo is a downer.

    Quote Originally Posted by nafod View Post
    3. The diplomatic hit looks like it would hurt, but I'm having an easier go of things than with my recent Shinto-Buddhist Date and Shimazu campaigns.

    I don't believe the - diplo hit really changes things to a degree where a player would notice it. Additionally Christianity allows the player to employ tactics that the CAI doesn't appear to be able to counter.
    True, setting yourself up as the master of trade does a lot to make up for (perceived) religious perfidity. Once the realm divide hits, being christian and able to "flip" provinces with your monks (either as buffer rebel states or preparing the gorund for your forces to control the province), is highly valuable.

    The CAI does use its agents, but I've not seen it (either as a Chrisitian or Shinto) undermine the rule of neighbours/opponents by preaching to the peasants of their provinces -or attempting to cause peasant revolts. Ninjas have mostly sabotaged my armies, occasionaly assasinated my generals & agents. Metsuke have certainly gone after my agents quite a lot, as have monks. In my experience, if the CAI isn't able to respond to religious warfare, its because its not using the monks other than in a counter agent/general way - the other agents it seems fine with, but their roles are mostly about fighting other agents and characters.

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