Christianity - Lottery ticket to Heaven?

[Rahwana]

just believe in Jesus Christ and if you are lucky (the Christian God is right), you'll go to heaven and all your sins are gone. Not to mention I can freely drank booze and ate pork without sins! Actually I consider to really convert into them, since I was principally atheist and don't care with God or anything spiritual, but the tighter regulations on alcoholic beverages, now all the muslim parties back it despite alcoholic drinks is the bloodline of most Indonesians... make me think that in some years in the near future, Christianity will rise here (and it actually does, since here, conversion is totally free. too bad our government don't recognize atheism)

Anyone know another stupid reasons for converting into Christianity?

[Tellos Athenaios]

You want to live and work in the USA? Edit: or board a plane to the USA?

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[Rahwana]

You want to live and work in the USA? Edit: or board a plane to the USA?

ahh, one more advantage converting into Christianity

[drone]

I know you didn't mean it like that, but the thread title is kinda funny. Christianity, a 1 in 131,278,024 chance of getting to Heaven. Play every week!

Sounds like your issue is not with beliefs or spirituality, but with organized religion and the control it exerts on the populace. Money and power, power and money.

[Rahwana]

yeah, since muslim leaders now try to forfeit us something we enjoy for millenia, even before Islam comes, we always enjoy good alcoholic beverages, and even 500 years after Islam becomes dominant, we still drink alcohol everyday, despite it was haraam. But now, thanks to the screwed concept of "democracy", muslim parties start to propose and campaign extensively for the banning of our proud tradition of Alcohol.

Man, I'm start to think that live under Dutch colonialization is far better than today's weird muslim politicians, at least we're free to drink alcohol and ate anything.

PS: and Christianity did on the sharp rise here lately, I bet those was because our tighter control upon alcohol (christians are free to buy, consume, and distribute alcohol)

[Skullheadhq]

Man, I'm start to think that live under Dutch colonialization is far better than today's weird muslim politicians, at least we're free to drink alcohol and ate anything.

It was, we should have converted you guys more agressively to Reformed Protestantism and assasinate those pesky muslim leaders like Soekarno, modern-day Indonesia would have been way better, and maybe even a colony still. But those pesky VDB/LU/VVD Liberals , SDAP/CPH/PvdA socialists and RKSP/KVP Catholics would have objected really, and the ARP/CHU/SGP Protestant parties never had a parliamentary majority, we should have sticked with Absolutism really.

Anyway, if you're serious about conversion I suggest you read the Epistles of the Apostles first, starting with Corinthians I up to Jude and if you don't understand anything or get stuck somewhere you can always PM me, I'd be more than happy to help

[Sarmatian]

Epistles of the Apostles

Actually, I you manage to say this quickly five times you're converted.

[Jaguara]

You want to live and work in the USA?

You mean there are still jobs in the USA?

[Jaguara]

Anyone know another stupid reasons for converting into Christianity?

Well, once you have built a Christian Church, then you can build the Monastary tree which allows training of Priest Units and give an extra benefit to happiness. Also, it seems easier to get Christian ancilliaries and so conversion to Christianity seems easier than trying to convert everything to Paganism.

Wait, we were talking about RTW/BI, right?

[Rhyfelwyr]

But only if you convert to true Christianity, which is of course, British Israelism.

[HoreTore]

Well....

Increasing numbers of christians is quite unlikely to mean "looser regulation on alcohol"... You're much more likely to see a christian-muslim alliance against teh booze.

[Cute Wolf]

Well....

Increasing numbers of christians is quite unlikely to mean "looser regulation on alcohol"... You're much more likely to see a christian-muslim alliance against teh booze.

nope, a lot of muslims converted into Christianity for legal acess to the Booze, it was the Buddhist and Hinduist organizations here that go openly against the booze... supporting the muslims.

of course, it's a bit confusing reality here, Christians are allready streotyped as drunkards here...

[HoreTore]

Just wait for the evangelicals

[Hax]

it was the Buddhist and Hinduist organizations here that go openly against the booze... supporting the muslims.

Yeah, not drinking alcohol is one of the Buddhist precepts, so that kinda works.

[Subotan]

It was, we should have converted you guys more agressively to Reformed Protestantism and assasinate those pesky muslim leaders like Soekarno, modern-day Indonesia would have been way better, and maybe even a colony still.

Because the Indonesians themselves didn't want independence at all >_>

But those pesky VDB/LU/VVD Liberals , SDAP/CPH/PvdA socialists and RKSP/KVP Catholics would have objected really, and the ARP/CHU/SGP Protestant parties never had a parliamentary majority, we should have sticked with Absolutism really.

Um. OK.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Well the thing with Christians and alcohol obviously varies from place to place, probably more a cultural thing that anything. A lot of Scots Presbyterians still think of alcohol as the "devil's buttermilk".

[Cute Wolf]

Yeah, not drinking alcohol is one of the Buddhist precepts, so that kinda works.

Historically, Srivijayan empire (the ancient Buddhist empire!)'s primary export was... sugar cane wine (tuak/legen), and it was the daily drinks for everyone that time.

Because the Indonesians themselves didn't want independence at all >_>

but we don't want to be put under islamic rule, I hope that terrorist parties to be arrested soon and executed, just like what Soekarno and Soeharto does, no tolerance towards religious fanaticism is always the best.

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oh, and now some of my muslim friends start asked me to buy booze for them, sonic included, since the rules are in trial period here

[Jaguara]

I am pretty confused, and it sounds like most other people are too.

If I am not mistaken, It sounds like what he is not telling us is that the new law in his country seems to be based on what religion you are registered as...So that if you are Christian, the anti-alcohol law does not apply, but if you are registered as a Muslim or Buddhist then you are no longer allowed to drink alcohol?

Please clairify the nature of this new law so that we can understand a bit better CW.

[Samurai Waki]

Depends on the brand of Christianity you're getting. The New World sects of Christianity tend to be more firebrand about the booze than old world.

[Hax]

Historically, Srivijayan empire (the ancient Buddhist empire!)'s primary export was... sugar cane wine (tuak/legen), and it was the daily drinks for everyone that time.

Yeah, and historically, the later Abbasid caliphs were a bunch of drunkard nymphomanes who partied all night long, Caligula-style, in their palaces in Baghdad.

Doesn't mean that a lot of Muslims drink nowadays, or that Buddhist organisations have no moral justification in their opposition to the consumption of alcohol.

[Centurion1]

catholics love booze look at one of our bastions of faith.......

ireland.....

[HoreTore]

....and yet, most anti-alcohol organizations in europe is based on christianity.

[Skullheadhq]

catholics love booze look at one of our bastions of faith.......

ireland.....

Uhm, we were discussing Christianity, not catholicism ;)

[Cute Wolf]

and I seriously doubt about Sonic's intent
he just need to be patient with our "we knows" inconsistent government rules

unless he want to have work in certain corporations , that's true, Christians here have very very disproportionate grasps in Economy :D

[gaelic cowboy]

catholics love booze look at one of our bastions of faith.......

ireland.....

....and yet, most anti-alcohol organizations in europe is based on christianity.

Ta da
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer...ce_Association

[Cute Wolf]

I start to wonder, why the Christian religious anti-alcohol movements only grows in predominantly Christian society? Without booze = no fun = no wonder why they lack churchgoers in the west.

God never said "no alcohol" in Bible, only said not to overdrunk them

[HoreTore]

Because they "get high on jesus" instead.

[Sarmatian]

Because they "get high on jesus" instead.

Where can you buy this jesus stuff?

[Viking]

....and yet, most anti-alcohol organizations in europe is based on christianity.

Isn't one of the biggest orgs in Norway, perhaps the biggest, secular: MA? It also looks like the socialists have their own, if not for total abstinence.

EDIT: I found a source, and I'll translate it:

[...] The origin has only partially been religious. Particularly, the workers' movement supported the case of abstinence - in particular in the early 1900s.