things we know about Realm Divide

**Rothe** · 04-05-2011, 10:33

I just had the realm divide happen out-of-turn without winning a fight. I got a bushido advance (bow mastery tech) though, and I think it might have had an effect on that. My clan fame meter was really really close to max before I ended my turn and it is either that I got the tech, or that I built something that brings fame, or my Daimyo got honour from somewhere (no idea how it could have happened).
I did not fight any battles between the end of turn and the divide event.

**Zarky** · 04-05-2011, 11:37

Originally Posted by Rothe

I just had the realm divide happen out-of-turn without winning a fight. I got a bushido advance (bow mastery tech) though, and I think it might have had an effect on that. My clan fame meter was really really close to max before I ended my turn and it is either that I got the tech, or that I built something that brings fame, or my Daimyo got honour from somewhere (no idea how it could have happened).
I did not fight any battles between the end of turn and the divide event.

Did you have any vassals and did they do something? If Realm Divide happens after ending your turn it has to be something someone else does.
I know vassals capturing provinces can launch RD, but not sure if vassals winning heroic victories can affect it too.

**Rothe** · 04-05-2011, 11:51

Originally Posted by Zarky

Did you have any vassals and did they do something? If Realm Divide happens after ending your turn it has to be something someone else does.
I know vassals capturing provinces can launch RD, but not sure if vassals winning heroic victories can affect it too.

That might explain it. My vassal took a province.

**d1ng0d0g** · 04-05-2011, 21:43

I learned that occasionally dropping so low as to plunder a town will definitely help with the Realm Divided event. But that does have other side effects.

Also in the one game where I turned on the Christians with the Chosokabe, my allies sticked with me, even though my reputation with them was very negative (for the expansion and the realm divided) and I conquered Kyoto, because it was on the logical path and then they immediately declared war on me.

**aimlesswanderer** · 04-12-2011, 13:40

As the Shimazu, I've found that immediately after RD my vassals stayed with me, even if they weren't all that happy with me. Even my allies the Takeda, who were very happy with me, stuck around for a bit. A few years down the track though, and the Takeda attacked my vassal, and so we were at war. I've also found that my vassals the Amako, who I created shortly before RD, declared a few years after (after taking Echizen, wonder if that made a difference), and the Chokosabe, who I reduced to just Awaji before RD, declared a few years after that. Now the Oichi, my first vassals, are getting unhappy, and I've started to build troops back there.

Sadly I haven't been able to create any marriages between my clan and my vassals, despite my having lots of relos. I must say that I try and create vassals whenever I can now, unless it's a particularly rich province or has special resources. But especially because each vassals bring in 1k in badly needed trade revenue!

**Toast** · 08-12-2011, 16:13

Glad I checked up on the RD stuff before coming across it...

Playing a game as Chosukabe and needed to take out Sojo (?) - the other guys on the Chosukabe island. Had been allied with them the
whole time , marriages and really good relations, meaning that I'd been able to focus on taking out everything in the west side of the map.

But, alas, victory conditions mean I have to have Sojo lands, so went on a ninja campaign to destroy their farms with monks to incite rebellion, as well as cancelling alliance, trade agreement, etc...

But also have a big border with the Yamukame (?) on the island to the north...
Realised I'd have to keep them sweet, so agreed some marriages and hostage exchanges with them as well as alliance and military access...

Eventually started a war with Sojo for their last three territories, and just as I was about to take their last one, a massive Yam army landed. They assisted in that battle and then rampaged around mopping up the last of the Sojo army... Realm Divide happened, and everyone joined the Shogun against me, except the Yamas.

Now I've moved towards Kyoto and they're still being really helpful, ganging up on the Hatamake (?) with me, and generally being useful, as well as keeping a strong naval presence in the dividing waters to stop any Hata invasions.

Am keeping a wary eye on the meter with them, but still at about +175, so looks like they may stay with me.
Once I've taken out the Hatas though, it'll have to be Kyoto, so will really need to make sure I keep the Yamas on my side.
It's getting pretty exciting. I'm in about 1868, and need another 7 or 8 territories, including Kyoto, so hopefully the Yamas will keep the bigger armies occupied for me while I pick off the unprotected forts.

Gotta say, I'm loving TWS2. Empire had all kinds of potential, but I could never get it to perform very well... No such glitches in Shogun - and naval invasions! Had a huge Hata invasion land and have a go at me.

(What a battle, to thoroughly rout them, the most satisfying part being a 4 unit Yari Cavalry charge in pyramid formation right into the rear of three archer units. Total Annihilation! )

Have there been any changes to RD since this thread was started? It certainly doesn't seem as game-nerfing as other threads have suggested. Has it been toned down, or have I just played it really well :) or got lucky?