So it's official, southern France is rotten.

[Viking]

Bah. It's got nothing to do with the mixing of cultures.

It's got everything to do with one bad culture, a reprehensible culture that's taken root in France.

It seems to me many in the government don't want to confront the problem culture because it is not politically correct to do so.

Though actually having immigration controls is a good thing. Makes me glad the US isn't next to the middle east.

CR

I cannot think of one single culture that was allowed to prosper inside another one. Minority cultures living alongside majority cultures always mean trouble. The only way for a minority culture to become accepted, is to turn itself into a variant of the majority one - aka integrating.

Though, of course, it is more convienent to blame it on one culture in particular if it suits the general world view better. This is also an opportunity to forget unjust and disgraceful behaviour towards women stemming from one's own culture, so that the people from Foreignia can be absolutely evil, instead of just relatively.

[Hax]

It is not just the Arabs. I shall top your fascism and go one further with stereotyping. The first problem is Méditerranée France, which is simply more macho than the north and west. Secondly, this local culture has been completely swamped by Italians*, Pieds-Noirs, Portuguese. These are more macho still. On top of this there is the Maghrebine immigration. Which is concentrated in the cities, and in the younger generations. There is no longer a city in the south where Europeans are a majority of youngsters. Urban culture is no longer European.

But the urban culture is not 'Arabic' either. It is a micture of Euro machismo, Afro subcultures, and a whole brew of influences, drawing as much from the mosque as from American rap music and gangsta subculture. Poker and gangbangs, these are what life is about to them. The local white trash speaks the same kind of gangsta French as the Beurs, wears the same clothes.

Thank you.

The rest of this thread makes me sad.

[Husar]

Thank you.

The rest of this thread makes me sad.

Indeed, it makes me sad, too, when women are treated this way.

[Louis VI the Fat]

women treated this way.

If I may add one sidenote to this...

Women's rights have never been more popular than since one could bash immigrants over it. One can nowadays witness the spectacle of two guys sitting in a garage, discussing the loss of women's rights because of immigration, in front of their nekkid girls calender and in between wolf whistling female customers.
Same with gays. And Jews. No matter how much some conservative simpleton may dislike gays, and Jews, and Israel, he will still find it in him to berate the Arabs for being homophobe antisemites.


Pffft...

[Strike For The South]

I had a giant self righteous post and my compluter ate the bloody thing, cliff notes

France has recently taken on allot of poor, brown, and muslim immigrants

French Culture is superior to this immigrant culture, although that's a broad brush

The way these people are welcomed and assimialted into French cultutre matter to. In America crime rates are much lower among all immigrant groups and they are *gasp* brown people to.

All 3 of these things matter, let's not be infants about the issue, but let's also acknowledge they matter both ways.

It's not like before teh brownies came France was a paradise were all women were treated with the utmost chivalry and respect. Because that isn't true either

Also, in America if someone groped a women and called her a whore that person would be dropped by someone in the bar. I don't mean to go testosterone frontroom on everyone but that would happen. Add into the mix it's some spindly little derka derka and their are a few amount of people who would probably take a certain fun in it. Is French culture usually this passive? I'm just getting an image of a bunch of pasty artsy types crying into the cafe & crossicants....come on guys.

I cannot think of one single culture that was allowed to prosper inside another one. Minority cultures living alongside majority cultures always mean trouble. The only way for a minority culture to become accepted, is to turn itself into a variant of the majority one - aka integrating.

THEIR ARE JEWS IN THEM HILLS

[Rhyfelwyr]

THEIR ARE JEWS IN THEM HILLS

It's always the same side that uses goes CAPSLOCK first and its never the ones they say it is.

Other people can do that to...

A: I don't like the way these immigrants act
B: ZOMG RACIST!!!

Yay!

[Ironside]

It's always the same side that uses goes CAPSLOCK first and its never the ones they say it is.

Other people can do that to...

A: I don't like the way these immigrants act
B: ZOMG RACIST!!!

Yay!

Now Melendil probably knows more than I do, but I've got the feeling that those are people that was born or grew up in France. Hence immigrants are the wrong word.

Anyway the behavior seems to be "madonna or whore" behavior where the madonna is replaced with whore. I'm curious on why the behavior occurs. The feeling of ineptness leading to oppression of the physically weaker gender?

Any idea on how to stop the behavior? It will not only poison this generation, these people will have children on their own...

Simply chanting it's the immigrants fault and closing the border won't work and will rather invite to a rather messy and not really working "solution" (Jews and Romani issues has been "solved" this way for centuries) if nothing more is done.

[Skullheadhq]

Since when does being an attractive young female mean you're a jew? And does this mean antisemites are homosexuals thus they're implying they're gay? But yet they hate homsexuals so they are self-hating? And since they wish the death penalty for homosexuals, does this mean they're suicidal? Arab logic is hard to understand for us outsiders.

[Jaguara]

Also, in America if someone groped a women and called her a whore that person would be dropped by someone in the bar. I don't mean to go testosterone frontroom on everyone but that would happen.

As I was dealing with my rage thinking about the situation, I had the thought that if I was witness to sort of thing, that this is how I might react. At the very least, I would confront the jackass(es).

I got to wondering how, if it is that bad, that there are not yet squads of French guys prowling around for the pricks. But Louis' post answers some of this, namely that it is more complex and perhaps that this is the prevaling attitude in the area.

[Fragony]

THEIR ARE JEWS IN THEM HILLS

Don't worry they will be leaving in droves once the hills get enriched, no idea why

[Furunculus]

Same with gays. And Jews. No matter how much some conservative simpleton may dislike gays, and Jews, and Israel, he will still find it in him to berate the Arabs for being homophobe antisemites.
.

just checking that you are using "conservative" in the small "c" convention?

otherwise i would have to point out that it is very much a feature of the left to dislike jews and israel rather than the right.........

[HoreTore]

I cannot think of one single culture that was allowed to prosper inside another one.

Really?

We stopped harrassing the Sami a few decades ago, their culture is now allowed to prosper.

As for the rest of this thread, get over yourselves. It's not that long ago slapping a woman on the buttocks was considered a compliment. We can thank 1968 for that no longer being the case, but 1968 was confined to just one part of the world. We need to spread feminism, something we are already doing.

[Viking]

Really?

We stopped harrassing the Sami a few decades ago, their culture is now allowed to prosper.

Their culture isn't exactly prospering. That said, you think of the wrong sort of culture - music, language, food and similar. I doubt the moral ideas of the average Sami is too different from the average non-Sami Norwegian, for instance. There is a high degree of assimilation.

The Pennsylvania Dutch?

Ajax

If there are many elements of segregation, then that is not inside another culture, but beside it. The glorious Wikipedia seems somewhat unwilling to answer my questions on this point.

THEIR ARE JEWS IN THEM HILLS

Pardon?

[ajaxfetish]

I cannot think of one single culture that was allowed to prosper inside another one. Minority cultures living alongside majority cultures always mean trouble. The only way for a minority culture to become accepted, is to turn itself into a variant of the majority one - aka integrating.

The Pennsylvania Dutch?

Ajax

[lars573]

The Pennsylvania Dutch?

Ajax

You mean the Vampire overlords of 'Merica?

[ReluctantSamurai]

You mean the Vampire overlords of 'Merica?

Huh?? If you are referring to the Penn-Dutch, you are sadly mistaken, my friend..............

[Noncommunist]

Huh?? If you are referring to the Penn-Dutch, you are sadly mistaken, my friend..............

Unless beneath their veneer of friendliness and simpleness, their vampiric nature lurks ready to prowl upon the foolish city slickers.

[Centurion1]

melendil is describing a ghetto though calling someone a whore and groping them will as strike said likely get you hurt or at least removed from the bar by the bouncer