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    Quote Originally Posted by Bow-wow-wow View Post
    TBH I just took me and the first 6 people who voted. Some of them had 1 or 2 items that they wanted so I tried tio give everybody the one I want.

    I'm not going to do this every round because I want everybody to have an item since we don't know who is on our side. I just figured I'd get dibs on the first batch.

    And BTW you shouldn't be complaining, I voted you that nice Puffy shirt. Now if you'd care to return the favor. . . . . .
    I did... does no-one read my posts anymore?

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    ATPG's rules state that you only get your wager back the lynchee is both successfully lynched and guilty. I assume that "guilty" means either chaotic or neutral. I don't know if there's any other alignments at work (other than evil, of course).

    Also, I didn't say that YLC is chaotic! I just said that the result of my faction scan gave me little reason to value his continued existance, especially if he's going to remain inactive.
    Great, so you really were trying to off one of the other evil factions - why would you want to kill off a confirmed but largely harmless opponent? Surely it would have been a better idea to focus on unknown but possibly more worthy lynches, like the other lurkers maybe? You (and possibly Subotan) has just wasted us a lynch


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    HAHAHAHA. Nice lynch, terd heads.

    And the best part is B-Ray even stated that YLCs identity was not necessarily chaotic, but one which would serve B-Rays purpose, which anyone could logically assume means that either B-Rays new role is evil with a conflicting faction to YLC or B is straight CHAOTIC. Either of those scenarios could make B-Rays statement true. What a waste of credits.

    We now see that there are 5 mafia factions. We also know that factions have nuetral (and possibly chaotic, based on the game rules) players.

    Since no one had a big win on lynch bets I am hoping that this means there will be fewer purchased vigilante acts. I'm sure at least one or two Chatoic have free kill abilities, but those of us who successfully defended last time are probably in the clear, as are all the winners of the shiny new items. Nonetheless, I am still expecting a very busy night in terms murders.
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    Also, Renata is mafia, because she is not bothering to play. When she is town, she starts attacking people with well constructed arguments and not particularly caring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Also, Renata is mafia, because she is not bothering to play. When she is town, she starts attacking people with well constructed arguments and not particularly caring.
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    She has posted in thread.

    Also known as the "I am posting on my iphone", as the mafia constantly check how everything is going, while a town might not be that desperate.
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    Ugh, what a sad lynch, that and the item vote backscratching will probably be useful to scrutinize later. But I have another thing to mention now that I can - I was forced to be quiet by some rare ability, I couldn't say anything on the thread, in private messages, make item votes, or even wagers during that whole Day Phase. And whomever else was silenced, speak up, given that there were at least two of us the chances there were more probably go up greatly.

    My best theory, and I'm asking Renata/others if you agree, is that ByzantineKnight caused this, possibly due to his death, may have even hit random people or he chose who to target. For one he was awfully lax talking about night actions and character details while dead...but anyway, what he posted about his character hating "noise" and wanting to quiet everyone is too much of a coincidence. At first I thought it was just one person with a night ability who targeted me specifically, and it was clear I couldn't do like anything so I didn't hang around. But now it seems it happened to Renata too, especially as I just found read a message that said while I couldn't speak any words, I could have posted "smileys" or "images" so obviously the same thing happened to Renata who went ahead and did that. I doubt this is somebody's regular night ability if this affected multiple people, but anyway, in case it happens again to someone I encourage everyone to try to post on the game thread each day, as on the other hand, everyone who didn't post today who wasn't silenced is just being a potentially scummy lurker. And if we ever find out someone still alive was behind this...stop it, cause it's very anti-town.
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    How do you know there were multiple people?


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    I don't know that there were more than two, however the same thing that happened to me clearly happened to Renata. Then it stands to reason this was more likely a "one-time" thing and could have affected more. The point being that, while I did think at first this was just someone's unusual night ability who targeted me, it's almost certainly not, nobody has a regular night ability to prevent multiple people from speaking. So I'm thinking chances are that there were more than two with the assumption this was a one-time type of occurence and especially given other people who didn't post during the Day.
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    Wait...wha? So is this power considered a form of "roleblock" maybe? My main concern is not the inability to talk -- in fact, that is a welcome side effect based on some of the participants irritating comments -- my concern is NOT BEING ABLE TO VOTE, which basically moots a persons bank account, especially when it comes to using your own money to save yourself from being lynched.

    This also means we should start discussing potential lynches during night phase, so we can put our heads together and point out ideas that others may miss come daytime when the thread is 5 pages longer.

    Also, there are at least 6 factions, not 5 like I previously stated. I know because I know.

    I would say the two likely targets for vigilante kills tonight is going to be Bow Wow for having the scanner, and B-Ray for leading a bad lynch. I hesitate to offer protection for Bow Wow because I cannot be certain he is town, and B-Ray even if protected is going to be a good candidate for lynch the following day.

    Anyone who bought a vigilante attempt the first night is still unable to afford another unless they are also successfully stealing credits on the side. I would not suggest announcing if you have lost items or credits to theft, because you will become a target and others will know you will be impotent on lynch betting.
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    @ Earthling, that sounds exactly like what happened to me and @ MRD, yes it did also remove my vote. I wasn't expecting it to have happened to multiple people.

    Anyone who seriously thinks I would try to save Seon *in that particular way* if mafia with him, I don't even know what to say. Just no.

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    Please replace me. :(

    I'm so sorry-- I don't check this forum enough.

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    Don't know why some of you are acting so upset. I never said YLC was chaotic. When I placed my bet on him, I stated that he was lurking and I didn't like that. When asked for further explanation, I confessed that I had faction-scanned him and wouldn't mind if he died. I even explicitly stated that I was not claiming he was chaotic. Then every lazy person in the game bandwaggoned their bets on YLC anyway. I reminded them that I wasn't claiming he was chaotic. What more should I have done? Begged everyone to not place bets on him?

    And let me remind everyone of something that seems to have been immediately forgotten after Night 1. Chaotic characters obviously have COVER ROLES! At least Seon did. That means that even if you do faction scan a chaotic player, they will show up as belonging to a lawful evil faction. So it seems to me that the only rational strategy for evil characters (at this point in the game) is to take out their rival factions. At least until we have some more circumstantial evidence to suspect a particular player is chaotic. So for all I knew, YLC could very wall have been chaotic; I just knew that I had no use for him, making him a safer bet than anyone else at the time, given my limited information.

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    The problem you have now, B Ray, is that everyone in the Evil Mafia Faction now knows that you are not in the Evil Mafia Faction, which means you have 3-7 players gunning for you now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by civplayah View Post
    Please replace me. :(

    I'm so sorry-- I don't check this forum enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthling View Post
    Ugh, what a sad lynch, that and the item vote backscratching will probably be useful to scrutinize later. But I have another thing to mention now that I can - I was forced to be quiet by some rare ability, I couldn't say anything on the thread, in private messages, make item votes, or even wagers during that whole Day Phase. And whomever else was silenced, speak up, given that there were at least two of us the chances there were more probably go up greatly.

    My best theory, and I'm asking Renata/others if you agree, is that ByzantineKnight caused this, possibly due to his death, may have even hit random people or he chose who to target. For one he was awfully lax talking about night actions and character details while dead...but anyway, what he posted about his character hating "noise" and wanting to quiet everyone is too much of a coincidence. At first I thought it was just one person with a night ability who targeted me specifically, and it was clear I couldn't do like anything so I didn't hang around. But now it seems it happened to Renata too, especially as I just found read a message that said while I couldn't speak any words, I could have posted "smileys" or "images" so obviously the same thing happened to Renata who went ahead and did that. I doubt this is somebody's regular night ability if this affected multiple people, but anyway, in case it happens again to someone I encourage everyone to try to post on the game thread each day, as on the other hand, everyone who didn't post today who wasn't silenced is just being a potentially scummy lurker. And if we ever find out someone still alive was behind this...stop it, cause it's very anti-town.
    1) As you pointed out, I am dead.

    2) What I know about my character is that he is big, stupid, and powerful and he hates noise. My death writeup and the role PM for El Gigante that is posted publically in the Non-Mafia game Resident Evil Dark Falls which I shall quote here so you don't have to look it up:

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Role PM's.

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    From : Askthepizzaguy
    To : Askthepizzaguy
    Date : 2009-11-24 17:16
    Title : Resident Evil: Dark Falls (ROLE PM- DO NOT DELETE)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    El Gigante- Richard Baeur



    STR: 15
    COM: 7
    VIT: 15
    SPD: 1
    STL: 1
    AWR: 9
    LUK: 1

    (El Gigante)


    Quote Originally Posted by YLC View Post
    *ahem*

    Epilogue...

    "Please, let me go!" Richard struggled against the restraints that bound him to the examination table. It wouldn't have made a difference anyway, his chest long since cut open and his organs exposed. it horrified him to watch, without any sensation of pain, as they dissected him bit by bit, traking something here, adding something there. "Please...please let me go..."

    A man from the shadow chuckled as he stepped forward, and it seemed as if the shadows tried to follow him. "I think not. I have to recoup something from this disaster Richard, and you fit the bill cleanly. As the only other person in Raccoon City with the Tyrant strain, your quite the find. sad we couldn't keep the female Tyrant, we've never come across one for those before, heaven knows what miracles of science we could have performed!" The man laughed evilly as Richard screamed, the doors to the examination room slamming shut and dampening the sound from inside that had echoed terribly through the underground hallways.


    ...To Be Continued?...


    You were Richard Baeur. But Umbrella men have done.... bad things. Terrible things. Now you here only cause pain, death, destruction. You want revenge. You find bad Umbrella men, you make them go crush. Squeeze out guts, mash in head, pull off legs.

    You hate hear men talking. When group of people talk, it makes your head go mad. You make them all go away. Your ears are so strong... you hear insect clear across town. You must make noises stop. Make them all go squish. Make bad men go away. Make guts splat. If you last one standing, you did good. You make all bad men go away. If Umbrella men die, you do even better. More talky man you crush, better your score. Make head hurt less.

    If you die and no get revenge, you die unhappy.

    If you die but get revenge, you die happy.

    This establishes that I squish people who annoy me Somehow I don't think that my character, obviously simple minded, would have an ability to stop people from making noise. If you notice, from my death writeup, the noise bothered me more than the pain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    The smaller figure was making a lot of noise, and this began to greatly irritate the towering beast even more than the tiny projectiles.
    If you are curious about the writeup just read it. I think I have already established that none of the other kills were mine. There was large figure who killed classical hero used a chainsaw. Something I clearly don't use and you can look at my conversation with Kagemusha to see that I had no part in his death either. Plus its a game full of mutants, theres obviously going to be more than one.

    In addition to this, from my experience, Askthepizzaguy often ties writeups together, if one character was involved in multiple actions during the night there is a reference to that in the writeups. Take for example the Star Wars one on Night One (I believe) when the apprentice was returning from a successful kill and was ambushed by a vigilante Jedi who killed him. The apprentice bragged about his previous kill and mentioned looking forward to successfully killing another Jedi for his master.

    If you want my analysis of my own death, please click on the spoil to follow:

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    NIGHT ONE

    ByzantineKnight stood proudly in the center of town. A massive figure, he felt he was prepared for anything, and felt no fear. When a familiar figure approached, the beast felt a kinship.... and immediately trusted the smaller figure. The two did not exchange any words.
    Notice at the end of the writeup how we are part of the same 'mafia' family, the Dark Falls Mafia that explains the kinship I felt, I trusted the figure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    However, ByzantineKnight suddenly felt an annoying stinging sensation in his chest and arms. He looked down and saw that bits and pieces of his skin were being torn apart by tiny projectiles. Confused, the creature looked around to see what could be causing it. The beast turned toward its new friend, the smaller figure, to see if it could gain any clues. The smaller figure was making a lot of noise, and this began to greatly irritate the towering beast even more than the tiny projectiles. Unable to connect the two annoyances, the great lumbering beast roared at its new friend, as if commanding him to be quiet.

    When the noise continued, the great beast lumbered forward, roaring louder and smashing up parked cars and anything else standing in the way. The stinging sensation continued. Why was his new friend not listening to him? Stop making noise! Stop it!

    The figure began slowly backing up, and it began throwing tiny egg shaped objects in the direction of ByzantineKnight. These tiny eggs clattered to the huge creature's feet. It looked down, wondering what they were. They exploded, coating the giant creature with flames. The creature hated the bright light and the noise of the explosion, and it became enraged. Maybe this familiar figure was no friend at all....

    Finally, the creature turned toward its attacker and tried to stomp on it, but the smaller, faster figure moved out of the way. It tried to pound the figure into the pavement, but it kept moving. Finally, the giant beast grabbed a street light and pulled it out of the sidewalk, and began swinging it at its attacker. One of the blows landed solidly, and the much smaller foe went flying, and landed rather roughly some 30 feet away.


    The flashing and the noises stopped, as did the stinging projectiles.



    Satisfied, the confused giant lumbered towards the fallen foe, wondering why his friend was hurting him. The beast was startled when the figure managed to get to its feet, bloodied and battered though it was. The figure pulled two long blades from behind its back, and faced the giant. The giant stood its ground, still angry and confused at the unprovoked attack. The smaller figure lunged, moving faster than any human being possibly could. It buried the long blades deep into the giant's chest, impaling the creature straight through the heart.

    Reacting instinctively, the giant slammed its heavy hands together, crushing the attacker, and it pulled the small foe off of its body, snapping bones in the process, knocking the wind out of the little thing. The monster then lifted the attacker up with one hand, and slammed it roughly against the ground, trying to kill it.
    Big, dumb, and powerful. Obviously with no power beyond physical blows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    The giant could take no more of this abuse, and it began to transform.... the virus inside its body activated, and the already giant, enraged creature became more and more furious, and grew to several times its already formidable size. The bellowing creature could be seen and heard all across The Purgatory.


    The smaller foe weakly pulled itself to its feet once again.... astounded that the creature would not die. It looked at the giant beast with glowing, furious, murderous eyes... It produced a crossbow seemingly out of nowhere, and aimed the weapon directly at the giant's face, and squeezed the trigger.

    Tied tightly to the bolt was a small cylinder, filled with a special kind of powder, and protruding from the cylinder was a short, lit fuse. The bolt impacted the giant in the eye, causing the giant to stagger. The powder then exploded, shattering the giant's face and dealing a mortal blow.


    The massive figure roared with indescribable fury, its body burning, bloodied, and blown to pieces. With its final bit of strength, the massive giant uttered the following word....


    "Venganza...."



    The creature fell forward, swiftly and with murderous intent. The smaller attacker could not move its battered body out of the way in time, and it was crushed beneath the huge corpse of El Gigante.
    Here we see my item being activated. The same virus you were all voting for during the day. You also see me killing Seon who was Anti-Mafia.

    Followed by my faction, my alignment, and my card:


    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    ByzantineKnight has been murdered!

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    ByzantineKnight was El Gigante, of the Dark Falls Mafia faction!



    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    ByzantineKnight was EVIL!



    Jack of Clubs




    Seon has been slain in retaliation!

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Seon was Alfred Branagh, of the Dark Falls Mafia faction!



    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Seon was SCREWTAPE, of the Shadow Fort!



    Seon was CHAOTIC!



    8 of Clubs




    ByzantineKnight- El Gigante [Evil] Dark Falls Mafia (Resident Evil: Dark Falls) Jack of Clubs
    Seon- Alfred Branagh/SCREWTAPE [CHAOTIC] Dark Falls Mafia (THE SHADOW FORT) 8 of Clubs
    -------------Night One

    BEGIN DAY TWO.


    Conclusion: I am Evil by which of course I mean good. I had no powers past physical strength and an incredible ability to absorb damage. I am stupid and slow on the uptake, I am huge as you can see from my ability to destroy parked cars and pick up lampposts. And most importantly there is nothing to link me to anything that happened that was bad for the town.

    Now if we can start looking at real live suspects, I see three possibilities:

    1) Renata is not scum and someone was trying to implicate her by pointing out her day one reasoning. She is also telling the truth that she was silenced like Earthling. Probably in an attempt to further hurt her credibility and/or her ability to defend herself.

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    If this is true then whoever is trying to implicate here is probably one of the first to vote her on that bandwagon, possibly anyone with a high bid on her. This person is likely the person (or one of the people) responsible for silencing Renata and Earthling. And is either Anti-Mafia performing a risky move trying to get her lynched for some reason or is Mafia and is just mislead to believe she is Anti-Mafia


    2) Renata is scum and she is lying about being silenced. She actually was not posting because she was on vacation, but Earthling's claim gave her an easy excuse that also helps her credibility with the town. Seon was trying to act like he wanted her lynched in the hopes that he would be distrusted by virtue of being scum. However, when it appeared that that would not happen, he took back what he said and asked for everyone not to vote her because she would be upset with him for getting her lynched.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seon View Post
    Don't lynch Renata! She's gonna be mad at me when she comes back! :'(
    Which by the way is what mafia are supposed to do, so unless she has an awful temper I can't see why she would be so upset for him just playing his role. It also means that there is probably another scum-buddy who was responsible for starting the bandwagon on one of the other lynch options by the end of the day.

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    If this is true then she should be lynched immediately. After that we need to look at the other votes carefully. Anyone making high-point bids on another target is a good place to start.

    Honestly, I think the best place to start is B_ray. Not only did he literally waste points on a vote for a townie, but he also said that he wouldn't mind YLC being dead. Since this was said under the assumption that he was pro-town, it is easily inferred that he was claiming YLC may be scum . Knowing this, he took advantage of the understood meaning of his words and led a large bandwagon against someone who may or may not be mafia for all he knew. On top of this he is now advocating the town split into factional fighting instead of searching for mafia. He may just be a scummy townie but he is not acting in a way that helps the town.

    More on B_ray to follow


    3) Everything is unrelated.

    Honestly, I think option 2 is more likely and makes a lot more sense but you can make your own decisions but this is my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    She has posted in thread.

    Also known as the "I am posting on my iphone", as the mafia constantly check how everything is going, while a town might not be that desperate.
    You cannot possibly be for real here. This is me we're talking about, not some post-three-times-a-week lurker.

    If you're mafia, come and get me tonight. You know you're not going to get a second chance to do it by the lynch.

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    There is another option I don't think you covered: Only one player has the silence ability, and one of the "victims" actually used the power on the true victim. One the other hand, the chaotics are from another dimension, and perhaps they all have this power. If not, I would hate to see their other abilities.
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    I'm curious why the mafia killed you, Byzantine, of all people, as I thought you were acting rather scummy on day one and would probably have been on your case sooner or later had you lived, etc. Did you say anything on day one that might have provoked anything?

    I'm not chaotic. But I don't really agree with your conclusions as to who is most likely to be scum on my bandwagon or off it. First, the mafia obviously could not know that Seon was going to turn up dead. Nor, him having done so, could they have been certain that accusing me would get any traction whatsoever (or be worth the trouble, if I'd been able to talk). (I don't know who silenced me, but there's no reason to expect it would *have to* be a scum power.) Seon was either being opportunistic or panicking (you take your pick from your point of view; I know it was the former), but he was clearly surprised, either way.

    Therefore, any scum votes on me would not have been pre-planned, but rather, opportunistic as well.

    Second, keep in mind who I am as a player, and how YOU KNOW I am going to react if I wind up the victim of a false accusation resulting in my death. Keep in mind that alignments are revealed in this game. And now figure out what the scum are going to do. Are they going to bandwagon me? Maybe, though it's risky. Are they going to defend me, knowing the case is wrong? Very possible, depending on the player. Are they going to ignore the whole thing and just hope the town bites its own rear end without them having to stick their necks out? Also very possible.

    All of that will need looking at: by me if I'm alive and/or around to do it, by other people otherwise.

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    What was this?

    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight View Post
    Yawn

    Fold; Bet 3 credits on mythmonster2 for an awful reason to vote the leading lynch.

    Also, I had a reason to vote Earthling but I think I'll wait a few rounds before sharing just incase anyone else slips up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    There is another option I don't think you covered: Only one player has the silence ability, and one of the "victims" actually used the power on the true victim. One the other hand, the chaotics are from another dimension, and perhaps they all have this power. If not, I would hate to see their other abilities.
    That would be interesting and a better explanation of the silence. Renata and Earthling, what did you do on night one?

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    I'm curious why the mafia killed you, Byzantine, of all people, as I thought you were acting rather scummy on day one and would probably have been on your case sooner or later had you lived, etc. Did you say anything on day one that might have provoked anything?
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    I had a reason to vote Earthling but I think I'll wait a few rounds before sharing just incase anyone else slips up.
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    I'm not chaotic. But I don't really agree with your conclusions as to who is most likely to be scum on my bandwagon or off it. First, the mafia obviously could not know that Seon was going to turn up dead. Nor, him having done so, could they have been certain that accusing me would get any traction whatsoever (or be worth the trouble, if I'd been able to talk). (I don't know who silenced me, but there's no reason to expect it would *have to* be a scum power.) Seon was either being opportunistic or panicking (you take your pick from your point of view; I know it was the former), but he was clearly surprised, either way.

    Therefore, any scum votes on me would not have been pre-planned, but rather, opportunistic as well.

    Second, keep in mind who I am as a player, and how YOU KNOW I am going to react if I wind up the victim of a false accusation resulting in my death. Keep in mind that alignments are revealed in this game. And now figure out what the scum are going to do. Are they going to bandwagon me? Maybe, though it's risky. Are they going to defend me, knowing the case is wrong? Very possible, depending on the player. Are they going to ignore the whole thing and just hope the town bites its own rear end without them having to stick their necks out? Also very possible.

    All of that will need looking at: by me if I'm alive and/or around to do it, by other people otherwise.
    Okay, good points, I'll be thinking about it.

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    Yawn

    Fold; Bet 3 credits on mythmonster2 for an awful reason to vote the leading lynch.

    Also, I had a reason to vote Earthling but I think I'll wait a few rounds before sharing just incase anyone else slips up.
    What was this?
    Maybe tomorrow :)
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    If you're mafia, come and get me tonight. You know you're not going to get a second chance to do it by the lynch.
    That's a silly comment. Usually only one the a 'mafia' makes to gaul townies into thinking you are playing "really hard ball" but since you are the evil one, you can easily make it without much consequence.
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    I would be willing to suggest that some of the first night kills and attempts were actually townies who had the kill ability and just decided to use it for the sake of using it. Since there are multiple factions, one evil has the statistical advantage of not killing one of his own faction on a random murder. At that particular time, they probably did not realize how common retaliation items were, if they even knew bout them at all.

    So far the only self defense item to go up for vote has been from a guy who got lynched. There is no telling how many people were saved by defense items. We know of two. Most of the retaliation items did not work, but the killers are probably spooked nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    That's a silly comment. Usually only one the a 'mafia' makes to gaul townies into thinking you are playing "really hard ball" but since you are the evil one, you can easily make it without much consequence.
    Bite me. I don't care. I got to sit through an entire day of a bad accusation without the ability to even call it out for how idiotic it was, much less defend myself, much less anything at all. I am not happy. Somehow, I still didn't get lynched. I know Seon. If the thought has not crossed his mind that he's probably lost his one and only chance to get me dead the easy way, I'll eat my hat and yours too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight View Post
    That would be interesting and a better explanation of the silence. Renata and Earthling, what did you do on night one?
    Not that.

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    I was really busy with no internet access, back now.

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    I use multiple forums, and I'm fine.
    Pfffffffff you're always inactive after the first couple phases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    I would be willing to suggest that some of the first night kills and attempts were actually townies who had the kill ability and just decided to use it for the sake of using it. Since there are multiple factions, one evil has the statistical advantage of not killing one of his own faction on a random murder. At that particular time, they probably did not realize how common retaliation items were, if they even knew bout them at all.
    That was definitely the case with me, as the Killer Rabbit. I had no idea there even was a retaliation ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Bite me. I don't care. I got to sit through an entire day of a bad accusation without the ability to even call it out for how idiotic it was, much less defend myself, much less anything at all. I am not happy. Somehow, I still didn't get lynched. I know Seon. If the thought has not crossed his mind that he's probably lost his one and only chance to get me dead the easy way, I'll eat my hat and yours too.
    Ah, you injure me with your callousness. You know that I just like to make snarky comments

    In any case, thanks for that permission to kill you. Unfortunately I will not be able to kill you because I am really, really busy being dead.

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    Also known as the "I am posting on my iphone", as the mafia constantly check how everything is going, while a town might not be that desperate.
    IIRC the correct name for that phenomenon is "Subotan Syndrome", whilst casting votes from an iPhone is bunvoting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Bite me. I don't care. I got to sit through an entire day of a bad accusation without the ability to even call it out for how idiotic it was, much less defend myself, much less anything at all. I am not happy. Somehow, I still didn't get lynched.
    You survived because everyone who voted for you was a coward and not prepared to put their credits where their mouth was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B_Ray View Post
    That was definitely the case with me, as the Killer Rabbit. I had no idea there even was a retaliation ability.
    I think when you make "vigilante kill" a learnable skill (after multiple successes) then you will inevitably encourage people to attempt that skill in hopes of both unlocking traits and getting successes which get htem one step closer to learning it. People I am sure justify the chances of killing an innocent on the grounds that they will be much better served when they can perform the action for free.
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    I was really busy with no internet access, back now.


    Pfffffffff you're always inactive after the first couple phases.
    I was busy, man, and in way too many games. I'm gonna start doing just one at a time.
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