Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Jolt]

Do NOT kill Earthling tonight. There's something that needs to be discussed first. The original role of the Black Knight had to win by "dying" X number of times. Until Earthling survived the lynch it never occurred to me this role might possibly be the same, but it could be, and him asking for *both* vigs and hopefully scum to come after him tonight is more than just a little bit suggestive.

Hugely important question: Were any of the attacks on Earthling solicited by him? Did he tell anyone to attack him?

His comments post-attacks also need to be looked at.

He did dare me and CR to vig kill him the night I was murdered. He was saying that if we didn't we'd be clearly implicated as scum (In another one of his brilliant logical leaps).

[Greyblades]

Yeap, but fortunately, now noone will listen to him. Leave Earthling egging around and making non-senseless comments and accusations until the end of the game. He shall be this game's village idiot. :P

I would seriously advocate the killing of Greyblades or autolycus. Very especially Greyblades.

And I hope my 10% retribution item kills you in a cruel and unusual way.

[Earthling]

Nothing that needs to be addressed so far but there may be one or two Innocents among the scum who want to pretend not to read so I'll do it anyway. I prepared that statement after being told I could survive the lynch but I didn't expect my role info would be revealed - if it was just "Earthling survived the lynch, and that's all" that was what needed to be said for the town to move on. I said I was going to post it anyway and even put it into a little extra quote block to facilitate reading, but you know, scum can't read this game. And I already clearly said what actually happened in the writeup changes the strategy. God Emperor, up like 20 spots on the scum rankings but that's obvious. Shlin, I continue to not know what the heck you think you are asking about, because I've answered everything you've asked that I can answer, and I'm not in the loop on others' night actions or the Grand Alliance of Renata's Factionmates.

As for dead neutrals + scum: Yes, you were lying about everything and wanted to deny my role was my role and that I was attacked at night. So duh, Jolt, I told you or remaining likely scum like CR or anyone to try and detective scan me or attack me if you dared and then you'd have your proof.

[Earthling]

Actually I ought to share one thing with you guys for full disclosure. There's something in the write-up which while ok does not match what I honestly feel is correct and I'm happy to share it to help everyone to a better understanding of what's going on. What's in the dialogue is not how you call a chicken. What I should have said is "Scootalooooo, Scoot Scootaloooo"

Also, I wonder where Subotan has been this whole time, expected he might have voted on me, was he silenced? I'd forgotten about that, but it seems like we've had nobody silenced in a couple of days. Either the scum gave up on silencing (the second silencer presumably, we have had the one item obviously floating about and unused of course too for a couple days) or people are not coming forward anymore, but given that, and if nobody steps forward tonight, I'd be skeptical of future silencing claims. Everybody needs to show up everyday though.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And yes, it is IMO too far into the game to suddenly allow item transfers, particularly in the manner being allowed.

Items being in the game and the ability to claim them from the dead is directly ripped off from NOTW-style games. I thought it was understood how items worked, but I do notice that while items and voting items are mentioned in the rules, mechanics for transferring items are not.

This is an oversight on my part. It was foolish of me to just assume people knew they could transfer items; there's a rule that you can't transfer credits besides stealing them, but no rule against transferring items.

If people wish, I can remove item transfers from the game, as it wasn't at all clear that they were in the game to begin with. Chalk this one up to sloppy preparation.

[B-Wing]

I don't really care whether we can transfer items or not.

[Subotan]

Also, I wonder where Subotan has been this whole time, expected he might have voted on me, was he silenced? I'd forgotten about that, but it seems like we've had nobody silenced in a couple of days

Sorry guys, I was afk pretty much all of yesterday and today - I don't lurk as a strategy, as it's cowardly. Had I been online, I would have voted for Earthling.

[Visor]

Autolycus isn't scum.

[mythmonster2]

O.....K. I don't see anyone claiming that he is, but if you want to say that out of the blue, then go ahead.

Also, fantastic write-up ATPG! Bloody hilarious, that was.

[Choxorn]

Now I see why he has been so annoying, why he lies and gets people lynched, then lies about that as well: he wants to die.

Actually, he always acts like this.

[Greyblades]

O.....K. I don't see anyone claiming that he is, but if you want to say that out of the blue, then go ahead.

Jolt was saying he was to be vigilante'd.

[thefluffyone93]

[Seon]

[Greyblades]

Well more of a request, but yeah.

Yeap, but fortunately, now noone will listen to him. Leave Earthling egging around and making non-senseless comments and accusations until the end of the game. He shall be this game's village idiot. :P

I would seriously advocate the killing of Greyblades or autolycus. Very especially Greyblades.

Oh and if any vigilantes are listening; kill jolt, he seems to want me dead as soon as possible yet he only has a flimsy case on me, and if you need any more incentive he's not the one who has a 10% chance of killing you and hasnt spent all his remaining credits on defending himself. So, you know, dont spend a kill on a pointless and potentialy dangerous hit.

[Earthling]

edit - need to quote this I think so Greyblades doesn't back out:

Well more of a request, but yeah.
Oh and if any vigilantes are listening; kill jolt, he seems to want me dead as soon as possible yet he only has a flimsy case on me, and if you need any more incentive he's not the one who has a 10% chance of killing you and hasnt spent all his remaining credits on defending himself. So, you know, dont spend a kill on a pointless and potentialy dangerous hit.

Ok, killing Greyblades or lynching him tomorrow it is. Or as some might call it, another scum struck down by sudden onset failuretoreaditis. (Jolt is already dead, and he's a neutral, on some other opinions of his he's wrong or still lying to try to help his living faction allies, but your response...)

[Believer]

edit - need to quote this I think so Greyblades doesn't back out:



Ok, killing Greyblades or lynching him tomorrow it is. Or as some might call it, another scum struck down by sudden onset failuretoreaditis. (Jolt is already dead, and he's a neutral, on some other opinions of his he's wrong or still lying to try to help his living faction allies, but your response...)

I might've missed something, but Greyblades is scum because he failed to remember who was dead?
I thought that might be more of a town-tell, scum should remember who they've killed.

[Greyblades]

Umm...Uh...well done eathling you saw through my clever plot to... uh... get the mafia, yeah thats it, get the mafia to waste a kill on the dead, uh, thanks by the way for messing that, awesome, and great plan up. Yeah.

I swear, this is becoming a running gag. Thank god any pride I might have had was lost long ago.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

At least I'm still alive .

[Renata]

I might've missed something, but Greyblades is scum because he failed to remember who was dead?
I thought that might be more of a town-tell, scum should remember who they've killed.

Jolt might not've been killed by mafia; it's hard to tell. The two characters in the sweepstakes for likeliest to be scum roles (kill attempts for each of them three nights running and counting; can't pin either of them as ATPG-game roles) both attacked other people: neutral Beskar (ha!) and someone who got away (haha!). Bad night for the mafia, quite possibly.

CB's death may have been Beskar himself; the description of a masked chainsaw killer matches his role (Psycho Andy from ATPG's first CFC game); and the pattern of kills from the character (twice in four nights) matches that of someone who had to raise funds first for the second try (and/or whose effectiveness is not guaranteed, as the two "main" killers' seems to be absent successful protections and such).

Jolt's killer I can't identify except that it's likelier than the first two to be a town or neutral player due to the description matching any number of former ATPG mafia roles. Mafia might be able to "vig" as their cover roles (and if they did, another "haha!"), but there are a lot more real roles than cover roles out there.

Which is all a very roundabout way of saying that's probably not a town tell, though neither is it a scum one. What is the case against Grayblades?

[Renata]

Autolycus isn't scum.

That's the second time you've mentioned Autolycus; the first time was completely out of the blue. What is your connection with him?

[Visor]

Should be obvious if you look at his post.

[Renata]

Whose? Humor me; I missed half the weekend.

[Zack]

Humor me

Did you hear about the man who lost his entire left side in a car crash?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Don't worry, he's all right now.

[johnhughthom]

Did you hear about the man who lost his entire left side in a car crash?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Don't worry, he's all right now.

[Zack]

[Renata]

:D

JHT, you don't even want to know what I said about you earlier today.

[johnhughthom]

:D

JHT, you don't even want to know what I said about you earlier today.

[Renata]

Heehee.

[thefluffyone93]

.................................

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.
Though I know that evenin's empire has returned into sand
Vanished from my hand
Left me blindly here to stand but still not sleeping
My weariness amazes me, I'm branded on my feet
I have no one to meet
And the ancient empty street's too dead for dreaming.

Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship
My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip
My toes too numb to step, wait only for my boot heels
To be wanderin'
I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade
Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way
I promise to go under it.

Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

Though you might hear laughin', spinnin' swingin' madly across the sun
It's not aimed at anyone, it's just escapin' on the run
And but for the sky there are no fences facin'
And if you hear vague traces of skippin' reels of rhyme
To your tambourine in time, it's just a ragged clown behind
I wouldn't pay it any mind, it's just a shadow you're
Seein' that he's chasing.

Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mind
Down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves
The haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beach
Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow
Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free
Silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands
With all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves
Let me forget about today until tomorrow.

Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey ! Mr Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The round has ended, and I have to calculate the results and stuff. Will do ASAP. Don't wait up, I was also thinking about sending out updated role cards to everyone who is still alive, since it's been 5 rounds.

This will probably eat into the day phase, so, I may have to begin the day later on today.