The Campground [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just said I don't think Chaotix is your partner in the post right above yours'

It's ATPG and Scienter.

If there's a connection between scum buddies, than it's between you and Chaotix.

And above that, still, you say something else, which is precisely what I'm referring to.



Especially love the rolleyes, that's a nice touch.

[Visor]

Who wants to bet its actually ATPG and Andres?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who wants to bet its actually ATPG and Andres?

Lynch Andres first, then me.

[Andres]

Lynch Andres first, then me.

Lynch Pizza and Scienter, then worship me for being a genius

[Visor]

I'd laugh if one of those dies tonight. So much for your theories.

[Scienter]

Lynch Pizza and Scienter, then worship me for being a genius

Wait, what? I thought Chaotix and I were scumbuddies? How are Pizza and I connected?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Clinton, Iowa
Night 4

It was of no use.

He had been trying to fight it for a few hours now, but there were just some things - primal urges, one might say - that could not go ignored. Tossing and turning in what passed for a bed out here in soggy Clinton, Iowa, he finally gave up. The urges called to him. They would not be denied. With a purpose, the camper finally threw off his covers and sat up straight, reaching out for several possessions that might be of value to him in the journey ahead.

Flashlight? Check. Knife? Check. Chainsaw? Check. Air horn? Check. Every road warrior of America worth his salt knew that it was better to be safe than sorry. Doubly so in this case, heading out in the middle of the night to complete a duty when in all likelihood there was at least one, possibly still two, criminally insane fugitive murderers on the loose, not just in the general vicinity but actually on the same premises too.

B_Ray stepped out of his tent, armed to the teeth, ready to do battle with the menaces of the night. But first, the actual reason why he stepped out of his tent and was tossing and turning for the better part of two hours. He sauntered off to the woods, unzipped himself, and prepared to do his business - since there were no toilets of any sort on the campground.

Unfortunately, he had been watched for the entire time. As prepared as a man can be, as dangerous and alert, somebody is always most vulnerable when going to the bathroom. You were trained from birth to keep entirely focused on the task at hand, and it would take quite a lot to break out of that habit. Four traumatic days were certainly helping with this, but despite all of that they were still only four days. B_Ray needed more time.

And so, as B_Ray was relieving himself in the middle of the thick woods at roughly two in the morning, haphazardly checking around every now and then for signs of movement, it did not even dawn on him that he was missing a key quadrant in his checks - the one from above. B_Ray did not have any time to take out his knife, or chainsaw, or airhorn, or even properly zip back up before his attacked had dive-bombed him from 20 feet above in the nearest tree.

So, the only sound made that night after all was that of B_Ray's bones shattering on impact, enough force acting on him to kill him instantly. His killer, looking pleased with himself, took B_Ray's various equipment for himself and sauntered out of the woods.

The next morning, everyone gathered around nervously while another headcount was being taken. The result was what everyone had feared - they were now down to single digits. This would only serve to compound the increasing sense of urgency the campers had been feeling in recent days, as they prepared for yet another difficult day ahead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 9
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Csargo
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata
robbiecon
Reenk Roink
B_Ray

Executed:
Who am i?
Zack
Diamondeye
God Emperor

It is now Day 5. This phase will conclude in approximately 24 hours.

[Renata]

and a very honest strategy when I am town ^^ I don't mind being lynched, just focus and Chaotix and.. what is his name *checking* , thelastdays, when I am dead

Those last few posts from God Emperor sounded pretty scummy.

EDIT: also, this constant bickering between ATPG and Chaotix is starting to bother me. Both mafiosi hating each other in the public thread is not an unusual scum tactic.

Something about this pair of posts struck me as unnatural coming from Andres. I can't put it into words well, I'm too tired. Just if Andres really was considering GE as scum, why does he bounce off onto ATPG and Chaotix (one of a hypothetically scummy GE's scapegoats, by the way) instead of following up on the implications regarding GE? If he does do that, why preface it with "also" (implying a continuation which is not there) instead of something something like "although", as you might expect if someone had actually just had a drastic shift in their train of thought?

It looks more like the underlying thought process might be "hmm, I could paint GE as scummy, anyone else?" ... "ooh, ATPG and Chaotix might work too". That does have the continuation implied by that "also".

Yeah, I realize I've dropped to a new low here, suspecting someone on the basis of one word.

[Chaotix]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[Renata]

[Andres]

@Reenk

Yes, Pizza has put Chaotix into the tie. One of the reasons I don't think they're scumbuddies and why I said it's probably option b), Chaotix is Pizza's scapegoat.

I never made a case against Scienter. I've always said it was a strong gut feeling.

Vote : Scienter

[TheLastDays]

Now this I don't get, after all the case(s) you brought forward you won't vote for ATPG but rather for someone who you have a gut feeling for?
I'm not saying that I'm sure ATPG is scum, rather I have a hard time buying your arguments, Andres...

[Reenk Roink]

Can you tell us why you think Atpg is innocent please?

Also what do you think of john here. He rouses my suspicion for some reason. I would have killed him already if I was Mafia.

@Reenk

Yes, Pizza has put Chaotix into the tie. One of the reasons I don't think they're scumbuddies and why I said it's probably option b), Chaotix is Pizza's scapegoat.

I never made a case against Scienter. I've always said it was a strong gut feeling.

Hmm, fair enough on the evasion part then.

But now I find your case to be really contrived. I mean, Atpg and Chaotix have this clear connection but it is because Atpg wants to use it as a screen for Scienter. Also, if this is what you think, why aren't you voting for Atpg. Certainly he's been flagged more, already has a vote on him, and will be an easier lynch than Scienter who probably won't get a big showing given the thing with you and Atpg/Chaotix.

[Renata]

Can you tell us why you think Atpg is innocent please?

Day One. Late and unnecessary vote change from Scienter (who was never in danger of lynch) to Who Am I. ATPG's change made it 3 for Who Am I, 3 for Zack, and 2 for Reenk. You are a townie, and Zack probably was, therefore ATPG's not saving a scumbuddy by making this shift. Nor does he seem to be doing it for "look how townie I am reasons" (although it was a solid move given Zack's unlikely-to-be-scum behavior) -- he never makes an issue of it then or later. It looks townie to me.

As well he appears to come out much the better in the debate with Andres from last night, though I haven't read that closely enough to be really confident.

Also what do you think of john here. He rouses my suspicion for some reason. I would have killed him already if I was Mafia.

Absent putting Zack in the lead on day one, my overall impression is "safe". He voted one-offs on days two and three and is going with Andres here.

[Andres]

Something about this pair of posts struck me as unnatural coming from Andres. I can't put it into words well, I'm too tired. Just if Andres really was considering GE as scum, why does he bounce off onto ATPG and Chaotix (one of a hypothetically scummy GE's scapegoats, by the way) instead of following up on the implications regarding GE? If he does do that, why preface it with "also" (implying a continuation which is not there) instead of something something like "although", as you might expect if someone had actually just had a drastic shift in their train of thought?

It looks more like the underlying thought process might be "hmm, I could paint GE as scummy, anyone else?" ... "ooh, ATPG and Chaotix might work too". That does have the continuation implied by that "also".

Yeah, I realize I've dropped to a new low here, suspecting someone on the basis of one word.

I sometimes do that. Thinking out loud. G_E's posts did sound scummy.

You're reading a lot in that 'also'. I edited my post. I said one thing, minutes later, I also wanted to say another thing.

I admit to be guilty of usually not addressing the stronger parts of my opponents case and hitting hard on the weaker parts, making sure the stronger parts of the opponents' case don't get too much attention. Sorry

[Andres]

And above that, still, you say something else, which is precisely what I'm referring to.



Especially love the rolleyes, that's a nice touch.

Don't you have thought processes?

Also, "Il n'y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent pas d'avis". Only a fool never changes his opinion.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Don't you have thought processes?

Tsk, Andres. I'm not moved by that. You criticize the thought process, you criticize the case, you'll criticize the accuser, but it doesn't matter if I found the right answer by rolling DICE, if the answer is correct.

Also, "Il n'y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent pas d'avis". Only a fool never changes his opinion.

You may reserve the right to change your opinion, as often as you please. I'm simply theorizing that your opinions haven't been genuine in the first place.

Lynch Pizza and Scienter, then worship me for being a genius

Scienter will of course, go on past this whole charade where I get Andres and Chaotix lynched, and even though I will die in the process, I shall be vindicated when my she-scum partner lasts to the final round. You'll tremble as you place your votes on her, wondering if I could be that ballsy. But you stand firm, because you know that I can indeed. And you'll lynch her. And you'll be right. But, you'll be so very surprised... why would I play the WIFOM game if I know you're going to call my bluff?

The answer, my friend, is as plain as the cheese on my pizza pie. Because I am Askthepizzaguy, and my reputation must be preserved no matter the cost! For I am VAIN!!! Curse my enormous ego. Weep for me, townies, I'm too narcissistic to play this game properly...




Also, Scienter showing up right now is convenient timing. All too convenient, you see, because Andres accused her of being scum and she just couldn't help herself. I always fall into my own scumtell traps. Woe.

[Andres]

blah blah blah blah blah

You're still guilty.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Your case makes no sense

And yet, it's still correct!

[Andres]

And yet, it's still correct!

Why are you so eager not to defend yourself and only going for the attack?

I think you sticking to the attack is your way of showing you can't handle the pressure. You're guilty.

[Visor]

Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
B_Ray
Csargo
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

I want to hear from Csargo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why are you so eager not to defend yourself and only going for the attack?

I think you sticking to the attack is your way of showing you can't handle the pressure. You're guilty.

I've already admitted my scummery! I've already admitted Scienter is my partner! But now, I'm focusing on bringing down fake mafioso/true townie Andres so I can score much lulz before this game ends! Don't you get it??? There's no need for me to defend the indefensible. Now I'm going for the gusto. I intend for the audience to shower me with roses and gold coins when my masterful performance is complete!

I could respond seriously to you, but when has that ever brought me good fortune? I'd rather post sexy pictures of Kagemusha, it gets my point across better.