Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Greyblades]

Bet 20 on Chaotix.

[Romanic]

fold; bet 10 credits on Chaotix

Yay for Backwards!

[Visor]

Yay for me being partially right!

Unvote; Vote 50 on Chaotix

Toldya Pizza. :P

Kafei is looking for Anju. I thought that might be Believer, as he had told me he was looking for a very special person. Apologies Believer.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Bet; 20 credits on Chaotix.

CR

[Choxorn]

I did some research, and it would seem in a previous game a townie named Kafei was converted into the mafia role King Dodongo midway through the game. Kafei became the cover role for Dodongo.

I can say more. In remake and widedeyed's War of Hyrule Zelda Mafia, Kafei started the game as one of the two lovers, and a neutral. He was converted to Mafia almost immediately, and became King Dodongo. He still remained a Lover, though, capable of achieving victory with the Mafia, but also capable of achieving total victory by him and the other lover, Anju, being the only two people left in the game. They ended up winning that way, largely because Kafei was ATPG, and thus fully capable of pulling off something like that.

It looks like ATPG reused the role for this game, giving a lot more credibility to that Lover Theory Visor had awhile back. I wonder how he figured it out, though... Visor, you wouldn't happen to be the other Lover, would you?

[Beefy187]

EDIT: Stuffed up the vote

[Beefy187]

Vote: Bear Claw for my self

Forgot to bold.

Also,
Bet 5 credit: God Emperor

[Romanic]

Meh, none of these characters (Satan, King Dodongo, Kafei) fit the profile for our two killers: Green eyed or Black Wings. I guess this means we have 3 chaotics to deal with (including Chaotix).

[Romanic]

Night 6: Attempted to roleblock Warman
And on Night 7 I attempted to roleblock Beefy

Did any of these roleblocks succeed?

[naut]

I did some research, and it would seem in a previous game a townie named Kafei was converted into the mafia role King Dodongo midway through the game. Kafei became the cover role for Dodongo. So, I have a few questions, but personally I'd rather everyone just lynch the guy to have everything answered once and for all. Figure Chaotix has done NOTHING to help find the Chaotics, and in fact Ironside made some damn good points against Chaotix during his posts lambasting Diamondeye (Post 1524). Not to mention Chaotix never bothered to accuse DE, though he claimed he had very little cash to sue to his failed vigging attempts. Couple that with my interesting scan result, and you have something that must be put on the front burner to figure out. In any event, I highly doubt he's a simple Evil player, not with this many cover roles and identities. I suspect he was converted, earning a double role in the process. Satan is his original role. He was then converted to the Chaotic's side, becoming King Dodongo, while also becoming the cover role of Kafei. Death is the only way to confirm it - I doubt there's any scan out there that's more powerful than what I have.

This is the most confusing paragraph I have ever read. But, I like your style:

Bet: 31 credits on Chaotix

Vote: Magnum to Romanic
Vote: all other items to Kagemusha

[Visor]

It looks like ATPG reused the role for this game, giving a lot more credibility to that Lover Theory Visor had awhile back. I wonder how he figured it out, though... Visor, you wouldn't happen to be the other Lover, would you?

A mixture of right guesses and wrong guesses, past info, and brain synapses.

[thefluffyone93]

Did any of these roleblocks succeed?

Nope.

and also...
Bet: 15 on Chaotix

[Major Robert Dump]

I recall someone saying Chaotix was chaotic on like the very first day due solely to his name. Someone deserves a cookie.


Also, for the gameroon purposes only, I am going to change my .Org user name to TOWNIENOTSCUM

[Beskar]

I recall someone saying Chaotix was chaotic on like the very first day due solely to his name. Someone deserves a cookie.

That was me.

[Beskar]

Also, I would like everyone to stop what they are doing and click themselves right to this post.

I want you, yes, all of you, to click right to this post:

THIS POST

This is how lame you have all been, I already told you who that Chaotix was, and you kept ignoring me! Even leading to these posts from me:

This one to Renata diverting the town away from it : reply to divert
This one telling town to stop following Renata yet again as she leads you away from this chaotic I revealed: post here

And after getting ignored more, I posted this in annoyance: This post


I would like to tell you this:

I been leaving clues and messages throughout the entire game, revealing who all the chaotics were so I could reveal them without breaking the rules, also so you know, that since the very start, I sussed out the entire game.


Edit: You can tell why I always end up getting lynched/killed/investigated straight away, I am far too dangerous.

[johnhughthom]

Beskar, you truly do get more humble every day.

[Beskar]

Beskar, you truly do get more humble every day.

[Romanic]

I just realized how bad I've been with my reviving targets. I'll revive Beskar asap.

[Beskar]

I just realized how bad I've been with my reviving targets. I'll revive Beskar asap.

What you know what sucks the most, for real? You will get a better end-score than me when I pretty much worked out the entire game but got killed off and shoveled into the corner, due to the collective consciousness of always being seen as "scummy" thus ignored and people being uncooperative.

[Chaotix]

Idiots.

I can give you all of the chaotics and win as a regular mafia with my personal goal of finding Anju fulfilled.

I was lying, of course, about being a regular townie. I was not lying about my personal goal. That's what it is. Finding Anju is one point. And once that's done, I get the option to change my alignment and go mafia instead of chaotic, if it's more convenient for me.

And you know what? It's certainly more convenient for me now.

But instead, you're going to lynch me and throw away your chance. Brilliant. You guys are just brilliant.

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Beskar, you have been awesome, and it wasn't my choice to kill you. I would've kept you along as a neutral assistant. Maybe if you got less convenient later I might've had you killed off, but I think we really could have been allies.

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So you guys have basically two options right now.

1. You lynch me now, and hope that you can find the other chaotics before they kill the rest of you. I find this unlikely, but you're free to take your chances and whatnot.

2. You take your votes off me and let me survive the day. In return, I give you the names of my scum partners (you can lynch one of them today if the votes come off quickly enough), and I become a townie once I find Anju during the night phase. My special ability is nightkill immunity, so I don't need you to protect me or anything. We kill off the mafia in 3 rounds or less, everybody lives happily ever after.

I'm NOT going to give you their names until I see the tides changing. If I die today, I am irrevocably a mafioso and would be screwing over my own chances of victory. I need to find Anju and give her my special item before I can change alignment.

Speaking of which: ANJU SHOULD REVEAL IN THE THREAD NOW. She is, as usual, a townie and has nothing to fear now that Ganondorf is dead.


So... anybody want to make a deal with the Devil? I am, after all, the Angel's worst enemy, working under his nose the entire time.

[Romanic]

What you know what sucks the most, for real? You will get a better end-score than me when I pretty much worked out the entire game but got killed off and shoveled into the corner, due to the collective consciousness of always being seen as "scummy" thus ignored and people being uncooperative.

Don't get me started in the scoring system.

Well, in your case, figuring the game isn't enough, being neutral. Not sure what your goal is/was, but sadly I don't think it's limited to finding the Chaotic team, like mine. You know, I might have considered you as a revival target if you weren't neutral, but I can't take a chance with you, no matter how hard you yell about being able to help us. See you in the next life.

[Chaotix]

Bet: 80 credits on Visorslash

Purely self-preservation at this point. I will put my bet on one of my teammates if/when I see votes start to come off me.

[Beskar]

Beskar, you have been awesome, and it wasn't my choice to kill you. I would've kept you along as a neutral assistant. Maybe if you got less convenient later I might've had you killed off, but I think we really could have been allies.

You made it obvious you wasn't keen on working with me though, my suggestion was a test and you failed it. I will tell you post-game why if you like since I can't do now because it might be rule breaking.

I did stop my argument against you though, because the spite I had against the 'town' for ignoring me and not lynching you was greater than the spite I had for you arranging my death. Though since you was publicly revealed anyway, I thought I would rub in a "I already told you so".

[Visor]

I think you need to die Chaotix. Can you decline item gifts?

[Beskar]

You know, I might have considered you as a revival target if you weren't neutral, but I can't take a chance with you, no matter how hard you yell about being able to help us.

I already beat you to it.

You can tell why I always end up getting lynched/killed/investigated straight away, I am far too dangerous.

In short, I am too good for my own good, especially in a game based on survival since I am too dangerous for anyone to leave me alive "just in case" I might be playing them.

[Romanic]

Idiots.

Way to start a post where you propose a deal.

So you guys have basically two options right now.

1. You lynch me now, and hope that you can find the other chaotics before they kill the rest of you. I find this unlikely, but you're free to take your chances and whatnot.

I'll take option #1. No deal with confirmed scums.

I'm pretty confident in my team's ability to find who the remaining Chaotics are.

Bet: 80 credits on Visorslash

Purely self-preservation at this point. I will put my bet on one of my teammates if/when I see votes start to come off me.

I bet you don't have that many credits. I stole all you had on Night 5. Nice bluff, heehee.

[seireikhaan]

Romanic's explanation does make sense. I'd like, if possible, a bit of confirmation on night timing. In the meantime, someone else needs to die. No deals with the devil today.

Fold
Bet: 39 credits on Chaotix

[Beskar]

Can you decline item gifts?

ZOMG, it's an Anju?!

I'm pretty confident in my team's ability to find who the remaining Chaotics are.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.... your team is rotten to the core, you was even pretty confident that Renata wasn't scum and she was the leader of your team!

Have you told your team mates you about the person who revived Diamondeye for their personal goal, yet?

[Visor]

I can see my death tonight lol.

[Chaotix]

I think you need to die Chaotix. Can you decline item gifts?

Is this question directed at me?

I have no idea. I have never received a gift and never tried.

I want you to die for putting me in this position, Visorslash, but I'm willing to put our differences aside. There are bigger fish to fry, namely Sephiroth and his reviving sorcerer.