Mafia X [Concluded]

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

For the love a God, Richie, when you set yourself up for bait like that, lease you can do is vote for the guy as took it. That bein Fat Tony. Too much scumminess today, knock it off alla you.

[Populus Romanus]

...

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

Scummy stuffs for Fat Tony:

Some scums ride bandwagons, some do the opposite. Fat Tony ain't never this game (minus run-offs) voted for the guy as got lynched.
Day one: no vote
Day two: Fingers (dead somewhere in the first few days)
Day three: Sonny
Day four: no vote
Day Five: Frank (wogged night six)
Day Six: Bobby
Day Seven: Bobby (dead night seven)
Day Eight: Richie

That takes some doin there, Fat Tony. You overcompensatin or somethin?

Fingers is a joke vote. I'm not: Fat Tony votes me cause I'm goin to hard on poor Vinny, who was just tryin to help or somethin.

Vote: Sonny

I don't like the idea of voting for people who are actually discussing things.

Ah, but you voted for him for just talking, while I voted for you because I didn't like what you were saying.

Do I really gotta say that "for just talkin" wasn't why I voted the goomba? Vinny wasn't discussin nothin' neither. "My stars and little fishes, these bandwagons is just TERRIBLE for us townies, somebody fetch me the smellin salts (and vote Furio)" ain't discussin. So you gotta wonder why Fat Tony cares. Even if he wasn't protectin his scumbuddy, he ain't doin too good a job with his vote here.

He got a different problem wit his first vote on Bobby.

Vote: Bobby

I've had a bad feeling about him ever since this post:

You cannot use our fake account names to draw conclusions about who could be mafia, they're just account names. This would be like drawing the same conclusions in a non-anonymous game, figuring that one of the few females we have around, would be mafia. Doesn't work, sorry.

vote: Connie

However I like who you are voting for. Scum sauce and salsa, surely a good candidate.

He disagrees with the reasoning for voting someone, then votes for them anyway with no reasoning.

And centurion is correct; a great deal of the votes for pedro were based on jokes.

This here's the scummiest thing Fat Tony's treated us to. That quote of Bobby's that Tony's been nursin?. From day four. Tony's vote on Bobby? Day six. So surely there must be some reason why Tony ain't brought it up before now. He musta had someone really important to vote for in the meantime. Let's see what he does ...
Day Four: no vote
Day Five:

I don't think this sort of bandwagon is going to help us.

Vote: Frank

So we have someone else besides Connie with a couple votes. We should try to keep at least two candidates in the running.

Yeah, that ain't him havin a better option than Bobby in his pocket. That's what you call "let's pretend to be a townie, make sure everyone knows how we're avoidin the bandwagon, and vote for Anne's candidate".

Fat Tony is lyin when he says he's been suspectin Bobby for two days. Pants on fire lyin. That ain't what happened at all. What happened was, dead Centurion starts goin after Bobby, Bertha does too, and Fat Tony thinks he's got a fat townie worm on the hook. So he goes fishin in Bobby's post history for somethin juicy, an this is what he finds.

And it ain't even all that juicy, really, but that's a different story.

Now today, Richie sets out the tastiest of scum bait, and Fat Tony dives right in like the scum he is. Eat it up, goomba, it might be your last meal.

unvote, vote: Fat Tony

[Earthling]

couple things:

Anne is still a bad call but is probably better than the alternative bandwagons at this point, which sucks, but might prevent more failed bandwagons against townies in the upcoming days. Bugsy is right that things are looking bad for the town but we probably still have time. Least we can say though is that Anne kinda deserves this lynch for terrible play as a townie and getting herself lynched this late towards the endgame, and with the anonymous accounts and vanilla game there's no excuse other than Anne playing terribly. Better an uncooperative townie dies than a cooperative one at least.

Richie, of course is next - obviously no one is going to believe the stunt you pulled like that. If you expect anyone to believe you if you're alive tomorrow, you need to commit a third kill tonight. So kill Luigi. The scum could simply kill you too but then you'd lose your chance to use this one-time ability of yours or whatever, so better use it tonight anyway if you have it.

[[MAFIA] Luigi]

Vote: Johnny
strapped for time, and don't want to miss vote again.

wil place reason ASAP. pls bear w/ me

[autolycus]

Earthling, it's not very productive to say Richie is next. He clearly is lying, since these games are always pure vanilla. Either he's lying to save his sorry little self, or he lied to try to pull out scum desperate for a strong case. I'd like to see Sonny join me in the grave if he isn't killed soon, as I think he was using his persecution of me as a method of lampshading his not getting killed.

[[MAFIA] Luigi]

Reasoning:

Vote: Angelo
The only one ever to vote for Angelo was someone who was lynched, and that same someone was someone that Angelo spared from death 2 rounds afterward by voting together with Angelo.... Bugsy. Bugsy is a possible mafioso.

Regardless, he's not been pressured, and he's wagoned almost everyone who has been lynched. He should have been dead a long time ago, if he were such a voting threat to the scumbags.

Me thinks this was a trap vote. Don't think s/he suspects Angelo at all (well, maybe...). The vote is to lure scum into trying to incite town to lynch her. It's risky, but I think she's currently in a good position to do so (I'll hold back my reasoning for that, for now).

Anyway, Angelo's countervote sounds natural. Johnny's reply (reasoning, subsequent vote on Anne & call for town to lynch her p20 #572)

To me it seems that Anne is attempting to kill off all the people who are active in this game. That would leave only inactive people who couldn't - or wouldn't - take her out. vote: Anne

looks like what's Anne's looking for, w/c explains her counter-attack and vote change. I can't help but think the same about Johnny's post. It ...'stinks,' for some reason.

And this, of course, is assuming I'm on the right track, and right on my current guess that s/he's not mafia. Otherwise, she got me fooled. Well, I doubt I'll get any answers/confirmation til end game.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

Stand by for the execution.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Twelve of them were now left, twelve out of a once-thriving village. Their numbers had been thirded of what they were. So, only a lucky dozen remained, thirteen if you counted the trusty Chief of Police JuJuBee. A few of the villagers noted these numbers and their possible implications considering their situation, but they said nothing. The time was past joking for all of them. Their lives, their reputations, their town was on the line here.

Even though there were far fewer of them less to talk, they all now had more to say now that things were really starting to be at stake. Longer, more elaborate cases were being made. Some of these were even - gasp! - being followed up on. People - well, some of them, at any rate - were making educated decisions on who to lynch. Who knows, maybe this day would finally end things once and for all and put this miserable week on wraps.

Maybe.

Today's lynch choice, after a serious back-and-forth between three candidates, was Johnny. Johnny had been a mostly reliable voter, establishing himself a decent record. Unfortunately for Johnny, this having of a record also meant that it was a lot easier to make a case on him, and the votes started to pile on, a mixture of the case and self-preservation and people just trying to put their names on the "voted" list for today. It looked like it would be tied for a while and Johnny would have an out, but a late surge in his direction sealed things.

"Okay, Johnny," the Chief of Police said as the condemned mounted the execution platform in front of the small crowd, "Do you have any last words?"

"Yes," Johnny started to say, and then he was whacked over the head with a baseball bat.

"TOO BAD!" JuJu yelled. "I wanted to say some last words for my Judy Garland pictures, but no! Those were irreparably damaged because some lowlife decided it would be a good idea to ruin my office by flinging an entire car through the window! Plus, 'It's A Small World' was still playing on the radio when I got in! Do you know how traumatic that is for a person?! Do you?! DO YOU???!?! So no, you don't get any last words. Life isn't fair, mafioso!"

Johnny, completely taken aback by JuJuBee's outburst, stammered for a second, and then finally managed to get something out. "Y-you can't prove that I did that..."

"The town says you did it, so you're a mafioso!!!" JuJu screamed, raising his bat high in the air. "You killed all those villagers! You've been leading the town astray for over a week! YOU RUINED MY JUDY GARLAND SHRINE!!! YOU'RE A MAFIOSO AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES!!!!!!!!" He brought the bat down on Johnny's head again and again, far longer than necessary, and only after the remaining townspeople nervously edged out of the Frontroom square did JuJuBee stop and collect himself. Johnny, better known as Populus Romanus, was nearly unrecognizable.

Day 8 tally:
Johnny: 5 (Anne, Angelo, Richie, Fredo, Luigi)
Anne: 3 (Bruno, Johnny, Emilio)
Richie: 3 (Fat Tony, Bertha, Giorgio)
Fat Tony: 1 (Sonny)

Didn't vote: None! There, was that so hard, guys? I expect this level of activity to be maintained from here on out.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (11)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bruno
Emilio
Fat Tony
Fredo
Giorgio
Luigi
Richie
Sonny

Wrath of God:
spL1tp3r50naL1ty (Frank)

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)
Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore)
B_Ray (Paulie)
White_eyes:D (Ralph)
Ignoramus (Luciano)
Romanic (Bobby)
Secura/a completely inoffensive name (Pete)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)
Diamondeye (Bugsy)
autolycus (Vincent)
Populus Romanus (Johnny)

Player list:

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Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Night 9! The round will last for 23 hours.

ANNOUNCEMENT: Starting on Day 9, Mafia X will enter the endgame phase. I will list the rule changes that take affect along with the kills tomorrow.

[Earthling]

Question for the GM - Don't you mean Day 10 starts this "endgame phase"?

And to everyone else - well that's just terrible, I didn't even realize Johnny was getting lynched and not Anne, we have just about the worst bunch of living townies left. Luigi needs to die, would be great to hear from Richie on the nonsense he's probably spouting, and from Johnny on his thoughts here getting lynched.

And goodbye Emilio, you're an obvious kill but at least you didn't get WoG'd, thanks for trying.

[[MAFIA] Angelo]

Why would we possibly want to hear from Johnny? Do not listen to the dead Mafioso!

I mean what do you expect his thoughts on getting lynched to be anyway?

"I love it. Never felt better."

"Yes, I was scum... well done, town!"

He won't say anything other than we made a mistake, if he's town he'll say that because, well, it's true and if he's scum he'll say that because, well, he's scum... Case closed, next suspect please!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Question for the GM - Don't you mean Day 10 starts this "endgame phase"?

We started with Night 9, so Day 9 comes after night. Also, perhaps "phase" was the wrong word; "stage" or "period" would have worked better. In any case, the "endgame" period is going to last the rest of the game, which could be multiple rounds.

[Earthling]

Well Johnny probably was not scum is why, might as well hear from him, he can't be worse than Connie or Vincent or any of the other lynchees trying to tell stuff to the town.

Luigi and Richie voting together to save Richie, that's a lot more interesting as a possibility though. We could finally just kill off (assuming Richie's fake ability is fake of course) Luigi tomorrow if any of the townies are bothering to try.

[[MAFIA] Angelo]

Well Johnny probably was not scum is why, might as well hear from him, he can't be worse than Connie or Vincent or any of the other lynchees trying to tell stuff to the town.

Well I ain't listening to them either and what makes you say Johnny was probably innocent?

[Earthling]

The game didn't end did it? So he wasn't the last scum.

And if you assume he was scum, then where was his partner and why didn't he even bother to try to defend himself? There were TWO, not one, alternate bandwagons and a couple votes on either could have at least tied it up and possibly kept Johnny alive. Yet neither he nor any supposed partner even tried to defend him when they easily could have had the votes to do so.

Plus, it's not like Johnny was ever really guilty of anything close to what several still-living suspects are. A couple bandwagon votes, when at this point in the game everybody has bandwagonned some, and an OMGUS by Anne? Populus/Johnny looks like a clear townie is all.

We're probably only going to get two more lynches total. And Luigi has to die, preferably in the next one, unless Richie somehow is telling the truth and comes through on a vigkill. We don't need people making the wrong assumptions about past lynchees being scum and overlooking obvious suspects.

[[MAFIA] Angelo]

Well to clear up a few things:
We get 2-3 lynches, depending on how many scums are left when we enter D11
If we don't get both of them before that there'll be 4 people left on D 11 so if two of them are scum the town's defeated. If only one of them is there'll be one more lynch. Or GH allows a double lynch like he did in Mafia I but I doubt that.

Richie is most probably lying about this secret power. As far as I understood this game is designed as a continuation of the original Mafia like it was in the beginning, celebrating the start of the Gameroom. The first Mafia didn't even have a detective, let alone a vigilante, none of the games in the series had one of those... so I highly doubt GH would put one in this game.

About Johnny: So now you're a townie by not defending yourself against false accusations?

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

Just lynch Fat Tony tomorrow.

[Earthling]

About Johnny: So now you're a townie by not defending yourself against false accusations?

Well yeah, or else you're a really suicidal and incompetent Mafia, but is it really the best idea to assume that and run with it? He didn't defend himself and didn't even place his vote where it could have gotten him out of a lynch. Combine that with him not being guilty of anything particularly bad or unusual, and it doesn't look like he was scum.

[Populus Romanus]

About Johnny: So now you're a townie by not defending yourself against false accusations?

I was going to unvote and vote for Richie, but never got around to it. I wouldn't say Anne isn't scum, but other people are better lynches. Like Richie. What is this about him claiming he has a "special power?" Because this is a vanilla game, the only special power he could have is to murder people. He has to be lying.

[[MAFIA] Richie]

For the love a God, Richie, when you set yourself up for bait like that, lease you can do is vote for the guy as took it. That bein Fat Tony. Too much scumminess today, knock it off alla you.

Fat Tony didn't have a vote on him.
I had better chance of survival voting for Johnny.

[[MAFIA] Richie]

Well I guess Bobby is innocent.

I was close to voting Anne last round, and I was wavering on whether or not to this round (She makes a decent case for Angelo), until I saw Richie's post.

vote: Richie

Lying and voting for a replacement who's WoG bait? Death, says I!

I don't know what to make of this post. Lying maybe, but voting for WoG bait shouldn't be the reason to vote me..
Assuming mafia has their QT and was discussing how they should react to my post. His swift response looks like town who was looking for a easy target.

Vote Richie

Scummy hey trying to avoid the wog hey.

This is just copying Fat Tony. I thought this was very strange.
If the mafia are inactive in their QT then I think this is the response that they'll come up with.

How is this helpful to anybody in any way? I...you...what...gah...I just can't see why you would want to do this, other than to be an annoyance. Plan successful:Vote: Richie

Correct response. Anyone who isn't mafia should be frustrated.

For the love a God, Richie, when you set yourself up for bait like that, lease you can do is vote for the guy as took it. That bein Fat Tony. Too much scumminess today, knock it off alla you.

Correct response. You have my trust.



I have my suspicion on Anne. You remained calm and tossed my post away as a joke.
You stuck to your plan and went for Johnny. Fact that Johnny case got popular suggests support from your dead team mate.
I'll be watching you.

After that I think Bertha then Fat Tony is the least likely of the three.

[White_eyes:D]

I have my suspicion on Anne. You remained calm and tossed my post away as a joke.
You stuck to your plan and went for Johnny. Fact that Johnny case got popular suggests support from your dead team mate.
I'll be watching you.

Centurion1 does have steam(?)....and it's being used to deceive people now.(ACIN springs to mind)

That's why I NEVER talk privately in any chat or social media (even RL for that matter) about mafia games...other then "it's a fun game". Getting into who you might think is a suspect, when the other person is not confirmed as a dead townie is just asking for trouble.

If people are listening to lynched unconfirmed townies or friend's of them.....try not to follow there line of thinking.

Now that I think about it...the votes really picked up when Anne was nearly lynched.

[White_eyes:D]

Well Johnny probably was not scum is why, might as well hear from him, he can't be worse than Connie or Vincent or any of the other lynchees trying to tell stuff to the town.

Why would town listen to lynched townies???(who could be mafia and providing false info on purpose)

[[MAFIA] Anne]

Question for the GM - Don't you mean Day 10 starts this "endgame phase"?

And to everyone else - well that's just terrible, I didn't even realize Johnny was getting lynched and not Anne, we have just about the worst bunch of living townies left. Luigi needs to die, would be great to hear from Richie on the nonsense he's probably spouting, and from Johnny on his thoughts here getting lynched.

And goodbye Emilio, you're an obvious kill but at least you didn't get WoG'd, thanks for trying.

You know Earthling, if you didn't spend half the game telling everyone how much they suck, maybe they'd listen to you.

And reasoning like:

"well, Anne is probably townie.... but she's just so horrible that we need to waste a lynch in the endgame on her. It's our only chance"

You've gotta be on drugs to think this is a statement of brilliance, because it's not.

[[MAFIA] Anne]

I have my suspicion on Anne. You remained calm and tossed my post away as a joke.
You stuck to your plan and went for Johnny. Fact that Johnny case got popular suggests support from your dead team mate.
I'll be watching you

Curiouser and curiouser. Who is my dead team mate, may I ask?

If anyone is listening to the lynchees, they took silly pills this morning.

[[MAFIA] Johnny]

Richie, you whine a lot about my lynch for a guy who voted for me.

[Earthling]

No Anne, it's just you. Why, part of your reasoning for voting Johnny was that although you might have thought he was a townie and not a top suspect, you didn't want him around voting in the future. How hypocritical is that? Well, you're doing so poorly if you are a townie that you need to die so you have no vote to use either, as you'll probably vote off another townie and directly help the scum if you get to live and keep voting. However Luigi does still need to die first and if we're sure we can get a third lynch we could go for someone else before you.

[[MAFIA] Anne]

No Anne, it's just you. Why, part of your reasoning for voting Johnny was that although you might have thought he was a townie and not a top suspect, you didn't want him around voting in the future. How hypocritical is that? Well, you're doing so poorly if you are a townie that you need to die so you have no vote to use either, as you'll probably vote off another townie and directly help the scum if you get to live and keep voting. However Luigi does still need to die first and if we're sure we can get a third lynch we could go for someone else before you.

Situations are not analogous. Johnny was voting for me on provably insane and false reasoning, and I smashed his weak and wrong case to little itty bitty bits, with great relish and a huge grin on my face. It was very satisfying, and he had no rebuttal whatsoever.

He was just an additional vote for the scum team at this point, and so, he needed to die, seeing as no one was voting for Angelo, who I was trying to make dead.

Besides, as I've noted, I can be hypocritical all I want, because I'm a townie. Should I be mafia, then my hypocrisy could be used against me. Try and keep up.

[White_eyes:D]

Yes Anne, we all know your going to win and that's that, no need to rub it in anymore then you already have.

However, Earthling is a little all over the place.....but he is a confirmed townie, so whatever.

[Earthling]

Anne, YOU are an additional vote for the scum team at this point. It's exactly the same reasoning you just said about Johnny, not counting that you kinda lied about Johnny's statement being false when it wasn't as pointed out before. You're doing such a terrible job as a townie, if you are one, and are adamant you're going to keep trying to lynch other players who are very likely to be town. So your vote is only going to help the scum, and instead of several of the past failed lynches it would have been much better if you died and other townies lived. Still Luigi could possibly be the last scum if we got lucky on one of the early lynches so just get that right tomorrow and we'd be going somewhere.