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[vartan]

I hope people noticed that I fixed the mistakes that I said there were...unless i didnt fix kluddargos...

Look into it when you come back from the trip. You told me I should let people know not to use the Lugii and the Kluddargos.

EDIT: I understand recent concerns. In fact, I think it was a compromise between would you like your unit smaller but with AP and higher stats or larger with slightly lowered stats (if at all) and possibly an AP removal. Not for all units, of course. This was something for elites and falxes and some others I think. For instance, notice that there is no longer a limit on the Bastarnae Falxmen. This is why. That AP trait does make a big difference though, and it could prove quite unfortunate not to have it on some units.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Look into it when you come back from the trip. You told me I should let people know not to use the Lugii and the Kluddargos.

EDIT: I understand recent concerns. In fact, I think it was a compromise between would you like your unit smaller but with AP and higher stats or larger with slightly lowered stats (if at all) and possibly an AP removal. Not for all units, of course. This was something for elites and falxes and some others I think. For instance, notice that there is no longer a limit on the Bastarnae Falxmen. This is why. That AP trait does make a big difference though, and it could prove quite unfortunate not to have it on some units.

Well the main concern with Drapanai and Bastarnae is that they are not elites and yet still lost the ap attribute. Their unit size was not increased to compensate a la Thracian Elites, and while I believe the attack was modified some bit, it still doesn't seem to matter much against armored opponents. The armor piercing attack was much more important to these units than the extra 2 or 3 attack they received.

I understand the concern that the Bastarnae in particular were considered OP, being readily available as mercs to some factions, but increasing cost would go a long ways towards fixing that rather than changing the unit itself. These two units in particular were always somewhat risky plays as they died in droves to any sort of missile attack. However, their tangible upside was clear. If an opponent spent all their missiles or did not think to use them on these units, then they would play a very important role on the battlefield. As it is now, they play a much, much smaller role while still having the obvious weakness.

[vartan]

I have to agree with that viewpoint, because making it so that neglecting the enemy's falxmen can prove fatal to your cause is probably one of the more exciting possibilities there ever was with regard to falxmen in the first place. Non-AP falxmen sound simply like better swordsmen to me.

[antisocialmunky]

It would be nice if rhomphs got their AP back. Getai is now quiet dull. They weren't broken or imba except for the fact that they could take a charge to the face and live.

The change was kinda a weird one that not a whole lot of people really wanted as far as I know.

[vartan]

Two questions for both gamegeek2 upon arrival as well as everyone else now:

1. What do you think about SPQR bringing more than 1 First Cohort to the field? Is that problematic?
2. Should SPQR not be able to hire mercenary phalangites? Does their mixing with Roman cohorts become problematic?

Thanks.

[Lazy O]

1.No

2.Its kinda wierd that Imperial and Marian troops fight alongside them, ahistorical IMO, but not problematic.

[Kival]

I would agree. The "problem" wiht imperial troops is just that they cost nothing compared to their heavy armour but one has to accept that I think. It's also ahistorical to use no cav at all with them etc. but it should not be forbidden.