EB Online EDU v2.1 - RELEASE!

**The Celtic Viking** · 07-20-2011, 04:01

Is it just me, or does it seem a little weird that Dosidataskeli have 6 more armour and 10 more morale than Dubosaverlacica and yet only cost 300 more mnai?

**vartan** · 07-20-2011, 05:30

Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking

Is it just me, or does it seem a little weird that Dosidataskeli have 6 more armour and 10 more morale than Dubosaverlacica and yet only cost 300 more mnai?

*jaw drops* Really? My my my that's so disturbing.

**Kival** · 07-20-2011, 06:09

I should not have played against you, Viking ;-). The Thorakitai Argyraspidai have the same armour as the Dubosaverlacica but 2 morale less, 2 defense points less, 2 attack points less and cost 400 more... While I agree that it is odd I don't think that the costs can only be seen this way though I don't know how they were calculated at first. It's also obviously something different to have this kind of unit as a phalanx or non-phalanx nation etc. - difficult...

**Brave Brave Sir Robin** · 07-20-2011, 15:30

TAB's are 80 men units while the Goildilic and Vasci units are 60, hence the cost difference. But something was seeming a little off with the Dosidatashkeli when I had those two units surrounded by literally 16 of mine and they still refused to rout.

**The Celtic Viking** · 07-20-2011, 16:41

Kival, I'm sorry, but I must insist that they are overpowered. Ordmalica charging from the front kills at most 15 of them before routing, and that's if they can envelope. If fighting straight from the front only, they kill 7 if they have no exp or 12 if they do, and that's if they can avoid those javelins. TABs only killed 12 before routing.

They do cost 3266 mnai and come with a 60 + 1 officer number, but they cause fear, are hardy, have two 7 attack ap javelins, a 19 attack spear, a total of 39 defence, of which 23 is armour, 12 is defence skill and 4 is the shield. Due to being disciplined and having 30(!) morale, they never rout either, even, as Robin said, when completely surrounded by a far more numerous enemy. With this in mind, that 3266 price tag is nothing.

They need to be nerfed.

**Kival** · 07-20-2011, 17:38

@Robin

Oh, I see.

@Viking

I was only joking ;-). I think not-rooting is not the problem, the solduros do not root, too. But the armour seems to be somewhat overdone. As we don't know if any of this units is historical at all we could just adjust the stats to the stats of the irish guys. They would still be strong but not unbeatable, at least I was able to beat Vikings Dosidatiaskeli ;-).

**The Celtic Viking** · 07-20-2011, 18:02

You mean my Dubosaverlacica.

Anyway, I know you better than to take you seriously, so I didn't (

). I just know you like them. Though, of course, I wasn't saying that "they can't be routed, so that in and of itself means they're overpowered". I was saying that, "they can't be routed, and that together with everything else, means that they're overpowered". It's a part of the equation, but not the whole of it.