Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[Arjos]

I never accused you of anything, simply said that your conduct is peculiar, and I changed my vote to you, because when things started to go differently from what you wanted, you straightly went for the person with the highest number of votes at that moment...
The comradery with God Emperor is still unclear to me...

[TheLastDays]

Tally:

TheLastDays: Seon, B_Ray, Arjos, glyphz
GodEmperor: Khazaar, Yaropolk, Earthling, Beskar

woad&fangs: dcmort93, Askthepizzaguy
SoulBlade: White_eyes:D, Thefluffyone93
Thefluffyone93: Secura, Chaotix
Arjos: robbiecon, TheLastDays

Renata: Believer
Beskar: GodEmperor
GeneralHankerchief: Choxorn
Believer: Diamondeye
Yaropolk: GeneralHankerchief
Khazaar: Zack
Riedquat: johnhughthom
B_Ray: woad&fangs
Chaotix: Andres
Diamondeye: Romanic

Abstain: n0rg3 Roink

Hope it's correct.

[Riedquat]

Vote: Riedquat

Welcome newbie.

Thank you!

Vote: johnhughthom

Yay! My first vote ever is an OMGUS vote!

[Renata]

vote: glyphz

Badly reasoned bandwagoning.

[Andres]

I don't understand why people are voting God Emperor.

He was attacked on N1.

[Andres]

Unvote ; Vote : Arjos

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Vote: johnhughthom

Poorly reasoned bandwagon .

[Arjos]

I don't understand why people are voting God Emperor.

You answered yourself...

He was attacked on N1.

What are the odds that he's some sort of medic and on the very first night he saved himself from a mafia kill, which happened to select him?
God Emperor is very fishy imo, also because he retaliated vote the person who voted him, he's still my choice, but I can't overlook TLD's behaviour...

Now your weak reasoning as to why everyone's voting him, might be an hint of an Andres-God Emperor maneuver...

[TheLastDays]

You answered yourself...



What are the odds that he's some sort of medic and on the very first night he saved himself from a mafia kill, which happened to select him?
God Emperor is very fishy imo, also because he retaliated vote the person who voted him, he's still my choice, but I can't overlook TLD's behaviour...

Now your weak reasoning as to why everyone's voting him, might be an hint of an Andres-God Emperor maneuver...

You can as well stop trying to blame as many people as possible.
What exactly in my behaviour can you not overlook? I want a clear answer as to which of my moves were showing that I was obviously Mafia, more worthy of the lynch than GodEmperor of whom you are so sure as well.

I'll have a post up a bit later explaining in more detail why I think GodEmperor is town but for now, people, take a look at Arjos' posts.
If anyone is deserving a lynch on a Day 1 it's him.

[Arjos]

TLD I never thought of you as mafia, imo you are a town fooled by God Emperor...
I had to vote you because you vote out of sympathies and antipathies, which won't help town, and as I said you went for the easiest prey in the process: this can't be good for town...

[Diamondeye]

Vote: God Emperor

Simply because his attacker was too badass to fail :D

Is this the case of "I don't know him but he sure sounds sexy"? I think it is.
unvote; vote: Arjos

I'm having fun

I just come straight from Midgard III where we went ahead and started to lynch important roles from the beginning. Basically lynching someone on Day 1, where there are no meaningful cases, who has shown that he resists nightkills is, imo, a mistake. No, GE doesn't get a free pass as townie as it could well be the ability of one of the Mafia or some third party scum but it could potentially be a big mistake to lynch him and it would be one that we could have avoided.

This. It's obvious that God Emperor has some sort of power-role. We should at least give him the time to explain himself. Which means he needs to explain himself - GE!

Vote: God Emperor because we need more bandwagonz.

That's the worst OMGUS I've seen in a while.

If I may

I don't recall TheLastDays' usual style in this game.. But so far it hasn't exactly been scummy.. at least in my eyes (yes I know he tries not to have me lynched , bla bla bla) . What I mean is that his style, so far, has given him a few votes, because he is eager and .. Well I am not sure there is anything more. I would just expect, that if he had scum budies, then they would by now, have told him to tone it down a bit, and that does not really seem to be the case. In other words, I would say his behavior atm should move him a little further away from a lynch and not closer

I agree: TLD doesn't strike me as scummy, the contrary in fact.

God Emperor can come role claim to me. I need some WIFOM in my life.

But you might choke on it! That's hazardous!

[Arjos]

Is this the case of "I don't know him but he sure sounds sexy"? I think it is.

Even if he might be someone who's trying to kill us, I can't help it, I liked how 'khaan wrote his character...

Anyway seems like my co-citizens vote only out of personal likings...
Silly to lynch me for openly reason about who could profit the most from God Emperor's accident...

I shall die and haunt the fools XD
If I survive the day and get killed the following night, easily means that those I accused are mafia (God Emperor and maybe Andres), that's our only weapon as townfolks...

[Believer]

Unvote; Renata
Vote: Arjos

How scummy can one get without being lynched? You're pushing the limits bro.

[classical_hero]

I don't understand why people are voting God Emperor.

He was attacked on N1.

How do you know he wasn't attacked by a bad guy, but a good guy? But I won't vote for GE either. vote:DiamondEye

[robbiecon]

How do you know he wasn't attacked by a bad guy, but a good guy? But I won't vote for GE either. vote:DiamondEye

It seems likeliest, from the write-up, that it was a neutral who attacked GE.

[Renata]

unvote, vote: Arjos

[TheLastDays]

TLD I never thought of you as mafia, imo you are a town fooled by God Emperor...
I had to vote you because you vote out of sympathies and antipathies, which won't help town, and as I said you went for the easiest prey in the process: this can't be good for town...

I have no sympathies for GodEmperor (no offense GE ^^) because I don't know him. I've had no contact with him before this game.
My actions and my leaning towards giving GE the benefit of the doubt come only from what happened ingame so let's take a close look:

God Emperor was wandering the streets. He didn't much like the idea of having to live in some new place. Either way, sleep was unlikely. Besides, it was a clear, warm night. So much nicer than it was in the daytime. He turned around the corner to a new street, and saw what seemed to be an enormous human male in the middle of the street. It seemed to have been walking down, holding in one hand an axe of astronomical proportions. The haft had to be eight feet long, the double-edged head perhaps four feet. The man's eyes lit up upon seeing God Emperor. With his off hand, the man pointed. “God or Demon, I care not. You have brought ruin to me and my people! NOW YOU DIE!” God Emperor scoffed a bit. This mortal thinks he can kill me? The man moved at God Emperor, running at an incredible pace, and wildly swung the axe. God Emperor instinctively ducked the blow, the axe going just over his head and plowing into the house next to him. The axe ripped apart the brick and mortar as though it were papyrus. God Emperor's eyes went wide. Perhaps it would be wisest to play this safe. He took off at a run as the man swung his axe downwards, missing again and creating a gash in the street. The man howled, and went round the corner of the house. God Emperor was already in the distance, and wheeled down a dark ally. The man roared in frustration, and smashed his axe once more into the street before stalking off.

1. He didn't much like the idea of having to live in some new place. Either way, sleep was unlikely. This hints at one of the usual residents of Babylon who now have to take up living in a new house because Angra Mainyu has quarantined everyone in the surrounding area of his palace or one of the Gods/Demons who have betrayed the heavens/netherworld to join Mainyu. Yes, this might as well hint at Mafia who recently arrived but firstly I don't think it would be worded as 'living in some new place' and secondly I don't think 'khaan would give the Mafia away like that.
2. The whole killing attempt makes me think it was done by a third party killer. The guy with the axe doesn't strike me as being a vigilante but rather a third party killer who's after anyone. He was resisted by GodEmperor. So far so good.

Now what else do we have other than the writeup?

tsk tsk.. aiming attacks at me

now that it is day, I can actually vote.. . . Vote: Beskar

If I may

I don't recall TheLastDays' usual style in this game.. But so far it hasn't exactly been scummy.. at least in my eyes (yes I know he tries not to have me lynched , bla bla bla) . What I mean is that his style, so far, has given him a few votes, because he is eager and .. Well I am not sure there is anything more. I would just expect, that if he had scum budies, then they would by now, have told him to tone it down a bit, and that does not really seem to be the case. In other words, I would say his behavior atm should move him a little further away from a lynch and not closer

What exactly strikes you as scummy here? Nothing? Thought so.

So your whole case is built on the fact that he was attacked N1 and survived? So yeah, he's obviously some kind of power role. There were tons of pro town power roles in both Netherworld 1 + 2. That's not enough conclusive evidence for the lynch of a power role.

So who is voting for him?
Khazaar on the wrong assumption that Gods and Demons would only be found among the Mafia.
Yaropolk with no real reason at all.
Earthling with strange reasoning. There's no indication whatsoever that all townies are humans and there is nothing to follow up on with GE, other than that he survived a night attack.
Beskar with a pure OMGUS vote.

There's simply not enough evidence against GE for a lynch right now. A lynch that will take out a power role that might be town. He might be scum, yes, but that will be determined. We simply need more information before we lynch a known power role. I would also propose to any doctors out there to protect GE tonight. He might not be as lucky next time.

Now where's your vote? Shouldn't it be on your prime suspect? No, it's on me who is, according to you, probably town jut because I am trying to avoid the lynch of a power role on the basis of nothing.
I don't vote out of personal likings, I don't like GE any better than you but he didn't behave scummy at all. You did.

[Zack]

Holy ellipses!

Unvote, Vote: Arjos

[Yaropolk]

There I fixed it for you

So who is voting for him?
Khazaar on the wrong assumption that Gods and Demons would only be found among the Mafia.
Yaropolk with no real reason at all to put pressure on GE and because he defends you instead of himself.
Earthling with strange reasoning. There's no a strong indication in the PM whatsoever that all townies are humans and there is nothing to follow up on with GE , other than that he survived a night attack and refuses to provide any info.
Beskar with a pure OMGUS vote following the logic in other posts.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't want to have to read all that.

Vote: Somebody

[Tratorix]

This case against God Emperor is terrible. The case against Arjos is only slightly less terrible, but good enough for day 1. Also, anyone who reads god or demon in the write ups shouldn't be surprised as:

Then, in a single day, Angra Mainyu unveiled his plan. In a single day, Gods and Demons alike turned on the Heavens and Netherworld and joined him, and he took the city of Babylon and all its empire, in just one day.

this is in the intro. God or Demon does not necessarily mean mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone vote for woad&fangs. There's a perfectly acceptable AND appropriate case on woad for day one: He's got fangs.

I saw him eating a spicy denizen of the Netherworld-ball.

You people and your "cases".

[Tratorix]

Everyone vote for woad&fangs. There's a perfectly acceptable AND appropriate case on woad for day one: He's got fangs.

I saw him eating a spicy denizen of the Netherworld-ball.

You people and your "cases".

Tsk, tsk. Has Midgard 3 broken your spirit so completely that you're trolling from round one?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Hm, I don't think any of you guys should get Cashews and Milk.

[TheLastDays]

Yaropolk, quoted for you from the OP:

While the Gods and Demons were fighting, they awakened an ancient, powerful foe, Angra Mainyu. Mainyu had been in wait for thousands of years after being banished. He took the land between earth and the Netherworld. The Gods and Demons continued their battle anyways, thinking he wasn't important. Then, in a single day, Angra Mainyu unveiled his plan. In a single day, Gods and Demons alike turned on the Heavens and Netherworld and joined him, and he took the city of Babylon and all its empire, in just one day.

Emphasis by me.

So yes, Khazaars assumption that Gods and Demons will only be found among the Mafia is wrong.

We aren't allowed to quote 'khaans PMs but the mass PM to everyone indicates in no way that all townies are humans. Period.

Leaves yours and Beskar's vote.
You say your's was a pressure vote. Fair enough.

Beskar did not follow the logic of the others because there is no logic to follow. He voted GE because it was easy and GE voted him. It is something that will need further analysis down the road should Beskar be around later.

Now I'm fine with pressuring people to provide information but let's for a moment assume that GE is a town power role. What do you want him to reveal now, to all of us, to the Mafia as well? What exactly could he say that would satisfy our need to know? Nothing. We need more info. I want another kill attempt by the guy that attacked him to analyse that character more. I want another night to see what happens. Again: GE is by no means a confirmed townie but lynching him D1 because he's some kind of power role is not a good idea. We need more evidence.

[thefluffyone93]

Everyone vote for woad&fangs. There's a perfectly acceptable AND appropriate case on woad for day one: He's got fangs.

I saw him eating a spicy denizen of the Netherworld-ball.

You people and your "cases".

YOUR LOGIC IS INFALLIBLE MY GOOD SIR!

Unvote; Vote: Woad&Fangs

FOR VICTOLY AND LARGE MULTICOLORED WORDS!

[TheLastDays]

Hm, I don't think any of you guys should get Cashews and Milk.

Thank God :D

[thefluffyone93]

Tsk, tsk. Has Midgard 3 broken your spirit so completely that you're trolling from round one?

HEY!

There's nothing wrong with that!
He might actually live this time!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tsk, tsk. Has Midgard 3 broken your spirit so completely that you're trolling from round one?

Ladies and gentlemen of the Netherworld, I'm just a pizza man. I fell on hard times and later got a job delivering cheese pies to folks who "preciate" me but don't tip. Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my Chevy... and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my laptop computer, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts. But there is one thing I do know - when a man like woad&fangs shows up in the Netherworld covered in woad, baring his fangs, then he is entitled to no less than two votes for being woad, and two votes for being fangs.

Thank you.

[thefluffyone93]