The Rise and Fall of Vespasian [Concluded]

[Ishmael]

Please tell me how. I need to get better...

I actually said this to Montmorency a day or two ago:

I've said that I don't suspect Visorslash, that's not entirely true - I've had a feeling about him from the start, and if there's 3 mafiosi remaining my money is on him, MRD and Khaan.

But then two consecutive posts made me change my mind. Classical voted for autolycus completely out of the blue, and you asked "Classical, why Autolycus" which seemed very townie to me for some reason. From this I figured classical_hero must be mafia, and since MRD was obviously scum (I maintain it was his own fault he got lynched ) and I had strong suspicions of Khaan, I figured you must be a townie. Good logic, eh?

[Visor]

I actually said this to Montmorency a day or two ago:

I know. Monty sent me a PM containing the words he sent you and what you sent back. :D (Before the final day.)

But then two consecutive posts made me change my mind. Classical voted for autolycus completely out of the blue, and you asked "Classical, why Autolycus" which seemed very townie to me for some reason. From this I figured classical_hero must be mafia, and since MRD was obviously scum (I maintain it was his own fault he got lynched ) and I had strong suspicions of Khaan, I figured you must be a townie. Good logic, eh?

Interesting. Is there a serious reason why every dead player wanted Khaan dead, and why you had suspiscions of him?

Next time we lynch Visor for the reasons TLD gave.

Please don't. This is a nice change from N0, D1 and N1 kill, which have been my last three games.

[Ishmael]

As to Khaan, personally I felt he was playing things very safe - only really posting to post his votes (except for that conversation with ATPG, but you guys tell me that's normal). Funnily enough, the dead players were one of the main reasons I didn't vote Khaan - I figured that if they all wanted him dead so badly but couldn't find any evidence to support this, maybe I was mistaken about his guilt.

[Ishmael]

Incidentally, CB, would you be able to tell me who my character was?

Also, 200th post! Sort of pales in comparison to most people here, though (19 000 ATPG? Seriously? )

[Montmorency]

AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH

I singlehandedly doomed the town with my cases against dump and classical (which I propounded to Ishmael and visor in PMs)!

Ah, what a fool I was, thinking that if one of the two were Mafia I could handle them the next day. But the whole time, I wondered if my continued survival were not due to my usefulness to the Mafia. Well...dem's the breaks I guess.

You guys should have kynched me Day 3.

[Visor]

I thought the dealine was 10 that very night on Day 3, so I tried to save gibbo, turned out it wasn't necessary. :D (That's why I voted you, otherwise it would've been PR).

[Askthepizzaguy]

AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH

I singlehandedly doomed the town with my cases against dump and classical (which I propounded to Ishmael and visor in PMs)!

Ah, what a fool I was, thinking that if one of the two were Mafia I could handle them the next day. But the whole time, I wondered if my continued survival were not due to my usefulness to the Mafia. Well...dem's the breaks I guess.

You guys should have kynched me Day 3.

*hugs*

Monty, if I can call you Monty, your efforts to lead the town to glory were not in vain. It is the effort that counts, to me.

I made very little effort this whole game, even though my suspect Khaan was correct. If I was joking about Khaan I wouldn't have pressed so hard for him on the final round. So, because I didn't put out the effort, to really explain why I felt I was a Khaan murder choice, nobody listened.

I don't mind honest attempts to win the game even if you fail. Keep at it. You can only improve.

[Major Robert Dump]

I actually said this to Montmorency a day or two ago:



But then two consecutive posts made me change my mind. Classical voted for autolycus completely out of the blue, and you asked "Classical, why Autolycus" which seemed very townie to me for some reason. From this I figured classical_hero must be mafia, and since MRD was obviously scum (I maintain it was his own fault he got lynched ) and I had strong suspicions of Khaan, I figured you must be a townie. Good logic, eh?

Remind me again how it is my own fualt I got lynched?

[Ishmael]

Remind me again how it is my own fualt I got lynched?

Come on, you've got to admit you were acting suspiciously. Or I'm a poor judge of character. In fact, judging by this whole scenario the latter seems more likely.

[Major Robert Dump]

Hehe

Aside from you not being able to detect sarcasm even if it slapped you...

As for making votes without making cases: there were no cases to be made, other than the dead telling us to lynch Khan. If I have no case, it is no better to grasp at straws and try to pull something out of my rear, because it all ultimately ends up being random. That's how mafia is. Sometimes you just gotta lynch a guy. Obviously, for those who were making far-fetched cases in order to justify their votes, well, that didn't work out so hot.

Well played by Visor though, when we were accused of being in cahoots. That was simple bad luck on my part.

[classical_hero]

Come on, you've got to admit you were acting suspiciously. Or I'm a poor judge of character. In fact, judging by this whole scenario the latter seems more likely.

You're terrible judge of character. The whole point of mafia when you are mafia is to get the town to think you are one of them, so deception is the key to mafia, so I would not blame you for the loss, since getting the mafia can be tough.

[TheLastDays]

Interesting. Is there a serious reason why every dead player wanted Khaan dead, and why you had suspiscions of him?

There was, I'm not going to tell the scum how to hide though

Also, about your posts in the QT: I'm not offended at all, no worries. For what I care, the worse your opinion of me is, the better
I did make you sweat that final day

I have to apologise, because being a replacement player that was offed right after replacing I couldn't be bothered to invest the effort that would have been needed to convince the town to vote for the right persons.

[Visor]

Obviously, for those who were making far-fetched cases in order to justify their votes, well, that didn't work out so hot.

I had so much on Ishmael on the final day because of this.

[Ishmael]

Heh, note to self: random chance>intuition>logic.