Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[TheLastDays]

Is the timer correct? Yay, thanks Khaan, that means I'll be able to be around!

Vote: DE.

You traitor!

That's your reply? Can we please lynch Seon?

[TheLastDays]

I hope so, otherwise it would implicate Axe Guy having a second ability, which doesn't make me feel very comfortable. Unless he just forgot to send in orders... but since Murphy's Law is almost always invoked in mafia games, I'd say it's a second ability.

And in related news, I'm considering changing my user title to Captain Obvious.

Axe guy (the BIG one with the BIG axe) has already missed a night before. It actually fits right in. He attacked N1, didn't attack N2, attacked N3, didn't attack N4.
The pearly lady was gone again and I think the green robe man who killed in her stead is the same we saw N3. Lady with the saber remains our only regular.

It all speaks for the option of the Mafia having more members than kills.

[Zack]

Can we please lynch Seon?

What is the reasoning? All I've seen is several "Vote: Seon" posts, without any explanation why they are voting for Seon.

[TheLastDays]

What is the reasoning? All I've seen is several "Vote: Seon" posts, without any explanation why they are voting for Seon.

Ahem...

Nah, at least not sure enough to pursue this now. I was probably aiming at a townie there. Seon is a better target today. His votes have been easy targets all game and his reasoning has been shoddy at best, I'd like him to talk about that.

I'd like to know if the big guy with the big axe has revealed to anybody in the network. Is he willing to work with the town?
I'm afraid we lost one of our doctors last night and we'd need any help we can get.

Emphasis added now.
Go look at his posts and votes if you need proof. I'm a little tired and need to do a writeup later. The round is long though, so if it's needed I'll probably be able to quote some of his posts later.

[dcmort93]

As with yesterday I'm going to Vote Glyphz

[Earthling]

Gutsy move Andres. I congratulate you.

vote: The Last Days

[Choxorn]

I still think that Vote: TheLastDays is scummy.

[Khazaar]

Umm, do you mean that voting for TLD is scummy, or that TLD is scummy. I´m sure you can make two sentences out of that, it got me confused. I thought you meant to be funny at first.

Vote: ATPG much spammy, less constructive, must be getting old...

[Double A]

No, I'm voting you because your behavior is off. Also, because I think you're displaying a case of PIS in regards to my attempted murder writeup.

Perhaps it's because I'm determined to not be dead weight for once, and that I'm trying to analyze the night kills instead of leaving it to someone else? I know how to play as mafia, GH. If I was, there would be no reason for me to do this. I've seen what happens to antitownies with PIS, and it's never pretty for them. If I were mafia, I would be lurking and voting randomly, because that's what everyone expects me to do.

[Chaotix]

Vote: glyphz

Somebody tell me why we're voting for TLD again?

[TheLastDays]

Vote: glyphz

Somebody tell me why we're voting for TLD again?

Was going to say the same thing but I guess simply voting without giving reasons is fine for most people.

[Zack]

Vote: glyphz

Somebody tell me why we're voting for TLD again?

He's "scummy".

[johnhughthom]

No time to read up, so I'm going to follow Renata. Vote: glyphz

[Earthling]

If you're just going to be someone's lackey you could do a lot better than following a neutral pretending to be town.

[Believer]

Was going to say the same thing but I guess simply voting without giving reasons is fine for most people.

We had several text walls about this last day phase. The information given there is enough to lynch you twice.

[Riedquat]

He's "scummy".

He is scummy!

He has been scummy since day 1, I'm fine with what could be his playing style but there are to many minor details... yeap, I'm not going to dissect any post, just an example, yesterday he jumped in every single bandwagon when not OMGUS voting for somebody else. Another thing, after Believer accusation and the wall-texting competition it was more or less clear to me (and it seems to Romanic too) it was a fruitless discussion between 2 townies, but later comes pizza trying to start a bandwagon on Believer for something TLD said? Or is that my bad interpretation of what I did see? Or my mind is playing tricks... I don't know...

But now I must say TLD is right on something, yesterday Seon was calling for his head very vocal... and now voting for somebody else without any reason or explanation?

FoS: everybody... me included!

[Romanic]

Vote: Romanic

Continuation from yesterday.

Bah, your reason for voting me yesterday was:

This is the second day in a row you're trying to get fluffy lynched based on an extremely flimsy, silly case.

Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.

Vote: Romanic

As for fluffy, it would be nice if you actually contribute for once. Romanic has a valid point in that regard. No offense, but posting nothing but memes isn't particularly helpful.

It's not a silly case to lynch someone when he's not looking for scum, even if we know that Fluffy acts like this in every game. We gave him a chance to act differently but he chose to stick to his usual behavior, despite the pressure. When one is the tally leader, he has to act Town, name who he figures is scum and try convincing the Town that he is not a good lynch (with arguments or a claim). He did nothing except moving his vote around, so players didn't unvote him, and I don't blame them.

You even acknowledge this when saying that "Romanic has a valid point", so why are you calling my case "silly"?

Also, you're saying that I am not looking for scum, but I am - pressuring someone who's impossible to read, is looking for scum. Fluffy isn't going to get a free pass to the endgame everytime he plays the meme act, not from me, no sir.

[Andres]

Gah!

And because I can't say a lot more than that about what happend last night: GAH!

That said, can somebody tell me why we are not lynching Double A?

[Romanic]

Axe guy (the BIG one with the BIG axe) has already missed a night before. It actually fits right in. He attacked N1, didn't attack N2, attacked N3, didn't attack N4.
The pearly lady was gone again and I think the green robe man who killed in her stead is the same we saw N3. Lady with the saber remains our only regular.

It all speaks for the option of the Mafia having more members than kills.

First let's fix your naming once and for all - 'pearly' lady was used in one writeup - You should refer to this character as the 'winged' lady, since she's shown having wings in all writeups she appeared in. Iirc Diamondeye proposed that she is a Valkyrie, and I agree with it.

Second, you're right to point that she is not around anymore, and I am seriously considering that she was God Emperor, who was lynched just before she disappeared. If so, then the mafia would need to have a new killer (assuming the mafia can kill twice, and pick who kills - I think it was like this in the previous game)

[Andres]

This is the second day in a row you're trying to get fluffy lynched based on an extremely flimsy, silly case.

Why aren't you trying to search for scum, Romanic? Do you really think fluffy is scum? If not, don't vote for him.

Vote: Romanic

As for fluffy, it would be nice if you actually contribute for once. Romanic has a valid point in that regard. No offense, but posting nothing but memes isn't particularly helpful.

FoS : Zack


There's so much wrong with that post.

First, you blame Romanic for making a filmsy case against fluffy, while all he did was pressuring fluffy to post something substantial instead of the usual meme's and funny guy act. You read an awful lot in a pressure vote and this "case" against Romanic smells fabricated.

Then, after you voted Romanic, you just basically agree with him.

That post smells fishy.

[Tratorix]

It's not a silly case to lynch someone when he's not looking for scum, even if we know that Fluffy acts like this in every game. We gave him a chance to act differently but he chose to stick to his usual behavior, despite the pressure. When one is the tally leader, he has to act Town, name who he figures is scum and try convincing the Town that he is not a good lynch (with arguments or a claim). He did nothing except moving his vote around, so players didn't unvote him, and I don't blame them.

This is a weak argument. If fluffy had named suspects and tried to save himself he would have been lynched anyway for acting out of character and trying to hard to not get lynched. It was an easy bandwagon and a lot of people jumped onto it.

[Choxorn]

Umm, do you mean that voting for TLD is scummy, or that TLD is scummy. I´m sure you can make two sentences out of that, it got me confused. I thought you meant to be funny at first.

If I thought that voting for TLD was scummy, why would I be doing it?

Nose of Suspicion: Khazaar

[Zack]

Then, after you voted Romanic, you just basically agree with him.

I said he has a point. I didn't say I thought fluffy was lynch-worthy.

EDIT: And Romanic, you voted fluffy because he "wasn't looking for scum", which you are also guilty for. What else would you call starting an easy bandwagon on someone for being silly, who you admit you don't necessarily think is scum?

[Andres]

This is a weak argument. If fluffy had named suspects and tried to save himself he would have been lynched anyway for acting out of character and trying to hard to not get lynched. It was an easy bandwagon and a lot of people jumped onto it.

Well, it was bound to happen one day.

You can't post silly stuff all the time and expect never to get lynched for it in each and every game

People have been lynched for far less in these games.

I really don't see why you guys are reading so much into Romanic. All he did was pressuring fluffy.

He could've posted something serious or substantial for a change.

[Andres]

I said he has a point. I didn't say I thought fluffy was lynch-worthy.

EDIT: And Romanic, you voted fluffy because he "wasn't looking for scum", which you are also guilty for. What else would you call starting an easy bandwagon on someone for being silly, who you admit you don't necessarily think is scum?

The fact you only quoted that part of my post is interesting and makes you look even more suspicious.

[TheLastDays]

Gah!

And because I can't say a lot more than that about what happend last night: GAH!

That said, can somebody tell me why we are not lynching Double A?

Because I think Seon is more deserving of attention at the moment.

First let's fix your naming once and for all - 'pearly' lady was used in one writeup - You should refer to this character as the 'winged' lady, since she's shown having wings in all writeups she appeared in. Iirc Diamondeye proposed that she is a Valkyrie, and I agree with it.

Second, you're right to point that she is not around anymore, and I am seriously considering that she was God Emperor, who was lynched just before she disappeared. If so, then the mafia would need to have a new killer (assuming the mafia can kill twice, and pick who kills - I think it was like this in the previous game)

Alright, let's call her Valkyrie from now on then. I would like to agree with you because it would feel good to have caught scum already. But, honestly, after the secons failed attempt by big axe guy, GE's claims received some more credibility and at the moment I rather have him down as a townie who did a very dumb move with keeping back his information. I might be a bit biased, because I defended him on Day 1 but I think the scums have just switched who does the killing.

[Zack]

He is scummy!

I agree. I was just pointing out that the general argument against him was "he's scummy". I even pointed out his bandwagon-hopping yesterday.

[Zack]

The fact you only quoted that part of my post is interesting and makes you look even more suspicious.

Umm, why?

I always only quote the part of posts I'm addressing. It's scummy that I didn't quote "FoS: Zack"?

[Tratorix]

Well, it was bound to happen one day.

You can't post silly stuff all the time and expect never to get lynched for it in each and every game

People have been lynched for far less in these games.

I really don't see why you guys are reading so much into Romanic. All he did was pressuring fluffy.

He could've posted something serious or substantial for a change.

I agree, just saying it probably wouldn't have mattered either way. There is more than likely at least one scummy person on that bandwagon, even if it isn't necessarily Romanic. It was an easy lynch that honestly shouldn't have been as close as it was. It's somewhere to start looking, since we haven't come up with much else.

[TheLastDays]

Yes, I myself stated yesterday that I was hopping bandwagons to save myself. If that's scummy to you, so be it.

Everything else that was posted against me is bogus. If this is not so, please restate arguments, just calling me scummy won't do, or at least I hope it won't because if it will, I don't see a turnaround of the current trend in the anniversary games.

Also, I agree there is probably scum on the fluffy wagon just as on the GE wagon.