London riots

[johnhughthom]

This happened in London?

A policeman murdered in riots in the same area 25 years ago.

[HoreTore]

So why is this rioting taking place in London and not the much poorer parts in the north or in Scotland/Wales?.

Such events usually take place in the capitol, or at least another major city, first.

Also, general wealth level isn't a good indicator for riots. To me, and the rest of the left, the answer lies in the difference between the poor and the rich. The greater the difference, the less harmoneous the society will be.

Another factor is the concentration of the unemployed. Let's say you have an area of one square km. If you spread the unemployed all over the area, you will have less chance of a riot than if you put all the unemployed in the same building.

[HoreTore]

We have tales of great riots during the late 1800's and early 1900's as well. We had a very monocultural society back then, but we still managed to hack away at the police and torch buildings.

This was in the days before the workers movement gained power, a time when the difference beteen the have's and e havenot's was huge. Thus, riots occured.



It's not race, religion, politics or whatever. The answer to this issue is the same as almost every other issue; money.

But fixing the wealth difference is hard and unpleasant, so I guess it's a lot more fun to bury your head in the sand and blame black people.

[Cute Wolf]

is that riot organized by republicans? I heard they plan to overthrow the royalty 'soon' in republic.co.uk when will and kate married, that could be their plan.

[Skullheadhq]

"his attackers were trying to decapitate him. Witnesses say that having wrenched his helmet from him, his attackers then repeatedly stabbed him in the body, and continuously hacked away at his neck. He lost several fingers as he tried to defend himself before the attackers fled, as more police, firemen, and ambulance men moved in to try and save him...the injuries were so grievous that it did appear the men were trying to behead the man"

rioters =/= christians.

[HoreTore]

rioters =/= christians.

But thieves and rapists are still muslim, right?

[Kagemusha]

Maybe they were bored? We had the "slut walk" march here at Helsinki last weekend, which kind of stole the attention of many.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Tho.../1135268360318

[johnhughthom]

It was probably a bunch of paddies who realised that spending every summer rioting in Belfast was counterproductive, so decided to branch out and wreck a different city this year. Though that probably gives the Irish more credit for intelligence and non-self destructivitytm than they deserve.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Well, it's hot, people are losing their jobs - so they riot.

The fact that the Tories are in power is just another symptom of the malaise of the country. The Tories get in when Labour breaks the bank and are thus turfed out.

So, glad I live in leafy poverty afflicted Devon.

[Fragony]

Maybe they were bored? We had the "slut walk" march here at Helsinki last weekend, which kind of stole the attention of many.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Tho.../1135268360318

GAWD do they really HAVE to be ugly at slutwalks, I'd kick my dog from that if I had one

[Kagemusha]

[Ronin]

is that riot organized by republicans? I heard they plan to overthrow the royalty 'soon' in republic.co.uk when will and kate married, that could be their plan.

that one was so easy to mess up...not sure why no one went through with this one:

Warning: Frequent bad language

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[gaelic cowboy]

Fresh violence on streets of London

Apparently there at it again in Hackney

[Strike For The South]

And the problem being? They don't persecute you, now do they. Nor blow you up, stone you, hang you or decapitate you in any way, some religions handle this different...
?

The problem being they destroy things and disrupt the processes that allow them to wear that wonderfully burberry

Any civilzation worth its weight in salt has in the best of times been ambivalent of religon.

[Banquo's Ghost]

The inevitable and pointless tangent into badly informed interpretative Islam has arrived and duly been deleted. Please stay on topic.

It was probably a bunch of paddies who realised that spending every summer rioting in Belfast was counterproductive, so decided to branch out and wreck a different city this year. Though that probably gives the Irish more credit for intelligence and non-self destructivitytm than they deserve.

Either the bravest or craziest post in the Backroom this year, given that two moderators here are Irish or Irish descent. Oh, how many rules can I decide that this breaks?

[Fragony]

A tiny tiny tiiiiiiiiny bit of protest, first I am not all that ill-informed, and even gave an example of how bad interpetation can lead to confusion. That's nuance

[HoreTore]

Either the bravest or craziest post in the Backroom this year, given that two moderators here are Irish or Irish descent. Oh, how many rules can I decide that this breaks?

I see only truth in that post.

You're just trying to suppress the TRUTH

[Fisherking]

Lemmings!

Can we bring back the blood sacrifice?

[gaelic cowboy]

Lemmings!

Can we bring back the blood sacrifice?

[Tellos Athenaios]

It was probably a bunch of paddies who realised that spending every summer rioting in Belfast was counterproductive, so decided to branch out and wreck a different city this year. Though that probably gives the Irish more credit for intelligence and non-self destructivitytm than they deserve.

Besides, they found it probably a lot easier to troll the Metropolitan than their local Gardai: the Metropolitan is always eager to rise to a taunt. ... Or a camera, for that matter.

[Centurion1]

The inevitable and pointless tangent into badly informed interpretative Islam has arrived and duly been deleted. Please stay on topic.



Either the bravest or craziest post in the Backroom this year, given that two moderators here are Irish or Irish descent. Oh, how many rules can I decide that this breaks?

Everyone in the US has some Irish in them. You wouldn't be hard pressed to find Irish descent.

What bothers me is the British's proclivity to rioting. You crazy always seem to be throwing off the shackles of oppression in one way or another.

[johnhughthom]

Everyone in the US has some Irish in them.

And twice as much English. Not supposed to mention that though, plastic paddies the lot of you.

[Fragony]

Riots in Birmingham as well, I must admit that you labour-folks are really good at rubbing diversity in the noses of the right and render their arguments out of date.

[Tellos Athenaios]

What bothers me is the British's proclivity to rioting. You crazy always seem to be throwing off the shackles of oppression in one way or another.

... what's more disturbing given the above is their inclination towards their being enchained.

[drone]

Pffft. Compared to the French, the Brits are rank amateurs.

Let me know when White Hart Lane is burnt to the ground.

[HoreTore]

Let me know when White Hart Lane is burnt to the ground.

Where can the Chelsea fans recreate the holocaust if that happens?

[johnhughthom]

What these events clearly show is that London is not a safe place for the Olympic games, it is obvious that the IOC is a corrupt body after having chosen such an unsuitable place for the worlds greatest sporting event.

[Adrian II]

Well, the explanations we've seen so far are: race and racism, immigration, poverty and the Irish. They're all plain nonsense. I have to say my spoofing references to christianity and well-integrated chavs were a lot more relevant.

The first incisive piece of comment is in, though. It's from the Telegraph.

This is the most arcane of uprisings and the most modern. Its participants, marshalled by Twitter, are protagonists in a sinister flipside to the Arab Spring. The Tottenham summer, featuring children as young as seven, is an assault not on a regime of tyranny but on the established order of a benign democracy. One question now hangs over London’s battle-torn high streets. How could this ever happen?

She then gives an answer that I can at least make sense of.

AII

[tibilicus]

To anyone that tries to play the "socially deprived youth" argument, don't be so ignorant.

The left, as the opportunistic scum they are of course will try and link this with the government but they're way wrong. It's nothing to do with social cuts, the very same scum which burn down their communities live off that same welfare package they're supposedly "revolting" against. These are people which are so excluded from society they CHOOSE to drop out of education. They CHOOSE to loot and they CHOOSE to instigate such behavior after an anti-police protest for a poor innocent hoodlum gunned down brutally by British bobbies. A lot of people have failed to grasp the fact that guy, whose name slips my mind as he is such an irrelevant bit of trash actually fired at the police first. His family apparently want answers, tell them their son was dirt and he deserved what he got.

I personally say let them destroy their communities, if that is their wish. Just set up an exclusion zone and shoot any of the vermin which try and loot outside that exclusion zone. For anyone who calls me out on being too harsh and being incorrect, who suggest their is a political motive, has anyone ever been the Hackney or Brixton or Totenham? Go talk to the average person their about current affairs,see what response you get. Most probably wont know who the current PM is and out of those I would say about 50% would try and rob you or "waste you for being on their turf". Again, scum.

[johnhughthom]

It hasn't been proven he fired first, or fired at all.