Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[Renata]

glyphz is clearly not scum.

Interesting comment from someone who had black fluid for blood. Glyphz needs lynching. It's Sunday and I won't be around; if I have to go first to make my point, so be it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alright, I was wrong about Earthling. Unfortunately he was and still is also wrong about me. Don't warte a round on me. vote: White_Eyes:D

Lynched: 5

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
Fluffy (D3)
Askthepizzaguy (D4)
White eyes (D5)

Waste a round on white eyes instead?

I approve. Being killed once is too good for him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: TheLastDays

Putting as much thought into it as TheLastDays, I see. Come on Robbie, I know you're an awesome guy, I want to see the awesome shine.


Also @ Renata: Sure, glyphz. Why not. I like that one.

[Secura]

Well, I didn't see that one coming, I expected to be killed too; thanks for protecting me Earthling, I'll be sure to repay your faith in my words. :P

Interesting comment from someone who had black fluid for blood.

Not quite as interesting as you pointing it out, though; what exactly are you trying to suggest here?

In fact, I have a better question; what have you been getting up to at night? On Night 3, an attempt was made to track Zack's movements, but for some reason it was deflected and you were the tracked target instead; it wasn't much of a big deal, since you were found to be active so it wasn't a wasted action. Your activity was played down at first, since Romanic wanted to speak to you and see which way the grass grows, so to speak... but he's dead now, and then I'm attacked, smells more than a little fishy.

Speaking of Council of Villains, wasn't it you who killed me in that game, having incorrectly assumed that Beskar's information had come from me? Is that what's happened here too, did you see Secura as a threat again and decided to go for the knockout punch? I think it's going to be you who eats canvas now though, treacle.

vote: Renata

[robbiecon]

Putting as much thought into it as TheLastDays, I see. Come on Robbie, I know you're an awesome guy, I want to see the awesome shine.


Also @ Renata: Sure, glyphz. Why not. I like that one.

You've made as good a case as I could in the following:

Lynched: 5

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)
Fluffy (D3)
Askthepizzaguy (D4)
White eyes (D5)

Waste a round on white eyes instead?

I approve. Being killed once is too good for him.

I've not been here as much as TLD, and yet, at least I checked who was actually dead. I'll let TLD sign his own death warrant with his failvote. There might be some magnificent post in me, but I'm only finding my way back into the game. It must be at least 15 pages since I last checked in.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Renata

[Yaropolk]

Vote: Renata
Let's hear what she has to say.

GH or Khaan - what time will this round end?

[Death is yonder]

what exactly are you trying to suggest here?

Yes indeed, my first thought that comes to mind when I read that comment.

Earthling's description as the bronze armored protector clearly indicates that he was responsible for the protections of many people.

Vote: Renata

Other suspects can wait, your comment seemed like it was intended to induce discrediting of Earthling's remark that glyphz should not be lynched, especially when taken into consideration your desire to lynch glyphz.

though the latter two may be neutral

Perhaps we may see, 'khaan did promise that neutrals would definitely have a "different" feel to their write up.

[TheLastDays]

Yes, I'm in the road, checking in from my phone because I don't feel like being inactive when I signed up for a game (and because I'm trying to keep track on my own game) got tons of other things on my mind and made a vote that i didn't even mean to make and the only explanation I have is that I was probably influenced by a post prior to mine. I'm clearly scum

After reading the latest exchange I'll go along with unvote, vote: Renata

But go ahead and lynch me. At least then I won't feel guilty about dropping to inactivity.

[Renata]

Glyphz said he was just a vanilla townie; he's not. He was active last night.

Also, I'm not sure which night you're referring to as night three, since it was a night start, but I was NOT active that night regardless of which one it was. Here are my actions:

-- scan xxxxx (inactive) [Someone knows who this was, but I see no point in giving the identity of a probable townie in public.]
-- scan God Emperor (active)
-- missed order deadline
-- tried to scan glyphz, was roleblocked
-- tried to scan glyphz, was roleblocked [Supposedly a different player from the first, if that can be believed.]
-- scan glyphz (active)

I seem to have been the target of just about very single mafia, cult, third party and townie power out there, short of the killers. It's been charming, let me tell you.

glyphz was saved twice by late bandwagons. One was led by Romanic, who was acting entirely too smug about *something* for a while there, before he got night killed. The other was contributed to by Earthling, who -- whatever he was and whatever his intentions in protecting several players -- was certainly no townie (black blood?) Whatever I'm onto doesn't appear to be the mafia (hence the "interesting" comment to Earthling), but it's something.

Like I've said, lynch me first if you have to. I'm not living much longer anyway. Just lynch glyphz next.

[Renata]

Other suspects can wait, your comment seemed like it was intended to induce discrediting of Earthling's remark that glyphz should not be lynched,

You got that right.

[Renata]

Other suspects can wait, your comment seemed like it was intended to induce discrediting of Earthling's remark that glyphz should not be lynched,

You got that right.

[Diamondeye]

Renata, are you voting for yourself?

Also, Unvote; Vote: Glyphz. Trusting Renata on this one (if I understand what is going on).

[Renata]

No, I'm not voting for myself, having trouble with site hangups, thought I'd deleted (and then edited) that. It was from DiY's post.

Also, it's Sunday; unless khaan extends the deadline again I will probably not be around again before then.

[Chaotix]

Vote: GH

For messing with the write-ups intentionally.

[Riedquat]

Vote: GH

For messing with the write-ups intentionally.

So the options for today are Glyphz again, TLD again or fresh new Renata?

Scummy White_Eyes still figuring in the alive players...

Vote: Glyphz

[Secura]

Also, I'm not sure which night you're referring to as night three, since it was a night start, but I was NOT active that night regardless of which one it was.

It was the night phase that started around the 4th August; I refer to it as N3 because that's what Romanic called it.

Here are my actions:

So basically, you're saying that you're an activity tracker as well? Why would there be so many of them in the game... unless you're an independent role?

I seem to have been the target of just about very single mafia, cult, third party and townie power out there, short of the killers.

You were not tracked by choice; as I said, Zack was the original target and the action was deflected to you. I suspected a bus driver somewhere.

was certainly no townie (black blood?)

Where does it suggest that the black liquid is Earthling's blood rather than, as I suspect, a symptom of the attacker wounding him?

[glyphz]

Glyphz said he was just a vanilla townie; he's not. He was active last night.

Also, I'm not sure which night you're referring to as night three, since it was a night start, but I was NOT active that night regardless of which one it was. Here are my actions:

-- scan xxxxx (inactive) [Someone knows who this was, but I see no point in giving the identity of a probable townie in public.]
-- scan God Emperor (active)
-- missed order deadline
-- tried to scan glyphz, was roleblocked
-- tried to scan glyphz, was roleblocked [Supposedly a different player from the first, if that can be believed.]
-- scan glyphz (active)

I seem to have been the target of just about very single mafia, cult, third party and townie power out there, short of the killers. It's been charming, let me tell you.

glyphz was saved twice by late bandwagons. One was led by Romanic, who was acting entirely too smug about *something* for a while there, before he got night killed. The other was contributed to by Earthling, who -- whatever he was and whatever his intentions in protecting several players -- was certainly no townie (black blood?) Whatever I'm onto doesn't appear to be the mafia (hence the "interesting" comment to Earthling), but it's something.

Like I've said, lynch me first if you have to. I'm not living much longer anyway. Just lynch glyphz next.

I still claim to be a normal expendable townie, & thought I've showed it as much as I could back in D3 & D4, esp. D4. (Ya know, deciding to vote myself off w/ less than an hour to go, w/ me in the lead and all. What I would call a 'sincere' and authentic self-vote, compared to the ones I've seen recently...)

Someone was nice enough to tell me in private, that I've been blocked for a number of nights (don't know w/c specifically), & visited by multiple people in another.
Reading your post, I thought at first that it was you, and that you're w/ them. But from the look of things, you aren't w/ them.

vote: Renata

edit: as for 'scan glyphz (active),' I'm assuming I was targeted by multiple people last night, and that reflected on the return PM from 'khaan.
FYI, I've gotten nothing from khaan about what happened to me last night.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I don't know when the round is going to end. khaan said he'd be back to normal sometime today though.

Since I'm completely out of the loop in this game, I don't really have much of my own observations to add and it really comes down to a (no pun intended) he said/she said game for me. Well, screw that, I'm going to vote for someone who has flown way under the radar instead.

Vote: autolycus

[glyphz]

Tally:

Renata: 7 - Captain Blackadder, Secura, johnhughthom, Yaropolk, Deathisyonder, TLD, glyphz

glyphz: 5 - Renata, Believer, dcmort93, Diamondeye, Riedquat

TheLastDays: 3 - Choxorn, ELITEWARMAN..., robbiecon

GeneralHankerchief: - Chaotix
autolycus: - GH

*double-checking*
edit: done

[Khazaar]

I´ll Vote: Glyphz for the scanners sake...

[classical_hero]

Are both of them townies? Renata and Glphyz? I do no like what is happening between the two of you. Vote:Choxorn for lack of what I see is a valid candidate.

[Ironside]

Assuming that glyphz is lying, then jht is his scumbuddy.

Jht has voted for glyphz at the start and then critically shifted the vote twice.

This is a mess though, trusting scan results also gives that GE and White_Eyes were active. That's definitly meaning that we're hitting some kind of (untownish) neutrals in the activity scans as well.

[johnhughthom]

Gah, people are capitsing the j when my name is acronymed now...

[Ironside]

Gah, people are capitsing the j when my name is acronymed now...

First word in sentence habit.

No comment on your vote switches?


Personal guess is that this is some kind of neutrals and that the White_Eyes trail is the mafia trail (based on the drop on the number of kills).

Of course I'm biased towards my own cases though.

[johnhughthom]

The vote switch on to pizza when he got killed was just to see how people responded, provoke a reaction, I didn't expect him to be lynched. I can't remember the other one, probably the same reason.

[Earthling]

Wasn't expecting things to develop like they did today but it's even more obvious Renata is a good lynch now. Anyone voting third candidates would do well to switch over.

The rest of this is directed at and about Axeguy, I'm assuming he'll catch on as he seems to have followed town discussion in the past. For that matter since he targeted Zack N3 in the writeup that could explain other people's claimed unexpected results there, we'd probably have to find who Axeguy is and ask him to be sure.

Without giving up anything about himself we know Axeguy can read the thread just as we've read the writeups about him thus far. So, it seems Axeguy can kill every other night which means he's up again tonight. At least so far I would say his attempts have been generally pro-town too, especially going after Double A who lots of people easily had as a suspect the last time. If he is town aligned or is a neutral who wants to help the town he would do well to follow the same pattern again tonight, and try to get rid of someone we all know is suspicious and likely to waste the town's time even if not one of the main mafia.

Given today's lynch and other developments, Axeguy should settle TheLastDays once and for all.

Whatever Axeguy is, he ought to be able to kill basic human townies. So if TLD is town, he just dies and that's done, no more distractions and bad votes. If he's not a regular human and survives that'll be about enough proof already that he's not town, without wasting other people's actions.

That said Axeguy might not be quite willing enough to attempt that hit for whatever reason (if he's not town) but still it would benefit us to have his cooperation. So if he just won't go after TLD I'll give a second recommendation anyway, so there's no confusion or backing out, which would be Diamondeye.

Now that that's all clear, Axeguy, if you attack a third different person without extensively justifying it, having revealed yourself to a bunch of others or in thread or something, the town should take that as an anti-town move. Pretty cut and dry.

[Beskar]

I'm back!

Vote: Beskar until I catch-up with the game so I can actually make a decent vote.

[TheLastDays]

Wasn't expecting things to develop like they did today but it's even more obvious Renata is a good lynch now. Anyone voting third candidates would do well to switch over.

The rest of this is directed at and about Axeguy, I'm assuming he'll catch on as he seems to have followed town discussion in the past. For that matter since he targeted Zack N3 in the writeup that could explain other people's claimed unexpected results there, we'd probably have to find who Axeguy is and ask him to be sure.

Without giving up anything about himself we know Axeguy can read the thread just as we've read the writeups about him thus far. So, it seems Axeguy can kill every other night which means he's up again tonight. At least so far I would say his attempts have been generally pro-town too, especially going after Double A who lots of people easily had as a suspect the last time. If he is town aligned or is a neutral who wants to help the town he would do well to follow the same pattern again tonight, and try to get rid of someone we all know is suspicious and likely to waste the town's time even if not one of the main mafia.

Given today's lynch and other developments, Axeguy should settle TheLastDays once and for all.

Whatever Axeguy is, he ought to be able to kill basic human townies. So if TLD is town, he just dies and that's done, no more distractions and bad votes. If he's not a regular human and survives that'll be about enough proof already that he's not town, without wasting other people's actions.

That said Axeguy might not be quite willing enough to attempt that hit for whatever reason (if he's not town) but still it would benefit us to have his cooperation. So if he just won't go after TLD I'll give a second recommendation anyway, so there's no confusion or backing out, which would be Diamondeye.

Now that that's all clear, Axeguy, if you attack a third different person without extensively justifying it, having revealed yourself to a bunch of others or in thread or something, the town should take that as an anti-town move. Pretty cut and dry.

You know what makes people vote you? It's the arrogance with which you go about things. YOU dictate what's the right targets and if axeguy doesn't attack these he's clearly anti town? This has nothing to do with me being one of your targets. Believe it or not, I'd say the same if I wasn't.

So much for that.

Alright, well IF I get killed tonight I'd want to warn everyone about trusting axeguy. Third parties don't exactly have a record of being trustworthy in Netherworld.

[Chaotix]

Wasn't expecting things to develop like they did today but it's even more obvious Renata is a good lynch now. Anyone voting third candidates would do well to switch over.

Earthling, I'm genuinedly interested in your reasoning for voting Renata. Whether your textwalls are annoying or not, you usually have a decent analysis.

Secura appears to be voting for Renata because she thinks she was metagamed, and she wanted to know what Renata's actions were. Apparently Renata is a scanner (or claims to be one), but that hasn't stopped everyone else from hopping on a bandwagon.

So what makes Renata a good choice for the lynch? Why is she a better candidate than glyphz? Because, as far as I can tell, this lynch is about whether we trust one's word or the other's, because one of them has to be lying. But from where I'm standing, it looks like neither of them are guilty if they've been roleblocked and incapable of killing for several nights.