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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    the EP is not representative of any polity i recognise, and a grand majority of this country would agree.
    the EP is not cared about by any kind of a majority, so its actions go unnoticed, which means it is effectively unaccountable to the electorate for its actions.

    ergo; it has no legitimacy.
    Which is the problem to solve, rather than reason to discount it because you can't be bothered to read what you elect someone for. In other words: either you don't want the hassle of democracy and accountability on the part of the EP to the British public (among others) and would to leave (all) such decision making powers in the hands of your MP; or you want genuine democracy and accountability in which case the problem of “cannot be bothered to care” is quite frankly the real problem, and your complaints about lack of accountability or democracy really not their fault but your own of your own making.

    For a flawed comparison: if all of the London rioters couldn't be bothered to care about property or people put in danger by their actions, that doesn't mean that the rest of the British public should accommodate this behaviour. The London rioters will be forced to pay the price for their irresponsibility, the same way yours already costs you when the German and French heads of state can effectively dictate the EU because for so long nobody could be bothered.
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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    the problem of “cannot be bothered to care” is quite frankly the real problem, and your complaints about lack of accountability or democracy really not their fault but your own of your own making.
    for sure.

    but when i am joined by the vast majority of my countrymen in the toxic mixture of apathy and contempt it is no longer my problem, it is the EU's problem.

    because people don't consider the EU representative, and thus do not consent for it to govern in my name, people are not interested in its dealings.
    because people are uninterested in the EU's dealing those dealings pass by with scrutiny, and thus it remains unaccountable.

    i have a government that i recognise as both representative and accountable, it sits in westminster, what use do i have for a federal government in brussels?

    end of.
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