The Thing Mafia [Concluded]

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Well, even if I'm dead wrong (which is always a distinct possibility), at least he doesn't get to laugh at me and point out how wrong I am/was until the game is over.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny

Shot in the dark here, but I think it's one of these five.

An excellent premise, but your conclusion is flawed. Reenk resides now within Johnny, or myself. I will allow you the opportunity to decide which is the true Reenk, and which is the poseur. If you choose incorrectly, I may inhabit you next, so think carefully.

[[MAFIA] Vito]

An excellent premise, but your conclusion is flawed. Reenk resides now within Johnny, or myself. I will allow you the opportunity to decide which is the true Reenk, and which is the poseur. If you choose incorrectly, I may inhabit you next, so think carefully.

Getting better, but it's still the same round where you made the outdated reference to Reenk's Razor, so I know you're still Pizza.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Getting better, but it's still the same round where you made the outdated reference to Reenk's Razor, so I know you're still Pizza.

Very good. Now all you have to do is unvote, and vote for Johnny. Bravo, General, bravo.

Unless of course you are as enamoured with the idea of Reenk continuing to play games with us as I am. I wouldn't miss it for the world.

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Why Johnny more so than the others on the list?

And I notice you haven't voted yet.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

I'd like to think that I'm able to at least have an idea where to start in trying to pick him out of a crowd.

But can you tell when he's speaking directly to you, and you to him?

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Why Johnny more so than the others on the list?

And I notice you haven't voted yet.

You haven't noticed much, then.

I will survive! Vote: Johnny

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Ah, whoops, I was going based off Nick's tally a few posts back.

But since you clearly avoided answering my first question, I'm assuming you're just screwing around now. G'night.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Ah, whoops, I was going based off Nick's tally a few posts back.

But since you clearly avoided answering my first question, I'm assuming you're just screwing around now. G'night.

If you wish to be enlightened, I will happily oblige. Stick around for five minutes and I shall demonstrate.

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Nah, I can just always read it when I wake up.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Okay guys, don't vote for Nick. Nick, this includes you. Reenk may be a lot of things, but he is also a sportsman at heart. Reenk said here that he wasn't going to take over Nick:



...which means that we can basically strike Nick off the list. Reenk's smart enough to win without resorting to outright lying to us (and he knows it too) and a simple misdirection move like this would provide him no enjoyment. Basically, unless Reenk acts completely out-of-character I think we can safely cross Nick off the list and move onto other suspects.

[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito

I'm taking myself off the list; believe me if you want to or not. I'm also taking Rocco/Pizza off the list, who I'm about 99% sure isn't Reenk due to posting style.

[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny

Luciano's been speaking Italian the entire game, and I think Vinny is khaan (unless Emilio was) because neither of them have posted much.

[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny

Shot in the dark here, but I think it's one of these five.

Vote: Sonny

In this analysis, you were almost completely correct. And so, Reenk himself congratulated you on your insight.

vote: Vito
You seem to understand this Reenk fellow well. A little too well. Granted, we have been stuck in this frozen prison of a labor camp for days now. I know I've gotten a little closer with some of my fellow men than I'd ever admit to anyone back home... Regardless, you seem fishy. And you're one of the few people who have yet to start brushing your teeth after I complained about everyone's breath smelling like coffee. *points Toothbrush of Suspicion at Vito*

He's telling you that you know him only too well.
He's telling you that he's "gotten closer" to his fellow men more than he would care to admit. As in, inside of them.
Then, he smirks at you verbally with a witty comment about you needing to brush your teeth.

It is the same bravado you would expect from Reenk, hiding directly under your nose, General Kleenex.

Johnny: I have been playing Mafia games with Reenk for roughly five years now and have moderated the Gameroom for the past two where it is my job to read every single solitary post made to make sure rules are being followed. Add that with the fact that Reenk is one of the more unique personalities I have ever come across, not just on this forum or on the internet, but most unique, period, and yeah, I'd like to think that I'm able to at least have an idea where to start in trying to pick him out of a crowd.

That is why this quote is absolutely hilarious.



Now, follow MY Reentuition and my Pizzanalysis, and destroy the THING that is Reenk Roink. Or I will laugh at you from the grave.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Nah, I can just always read it when I wake up.

When you do, the round will have ended.

Congratulations, we let him escape again. I blame you.

[[MAFIA] Frank]

Understanding Reenk is a worthy endeavor, a feat many have attempted; a feat almost all have yet to master. But to pretend to understand Reenk is the height of arrogance. Men with relatively remarkable intellects strive toward this Understanding, struggling in vain to comprehend his Points, achieving little in the process. It is not the meager achievement but the struggle which interests me the most, for life itself is a continual struggle towards Comprehension; to Know, to Understand, and to realize what can and cannot be Known. If Man could begin to fathom the limits of his own Comprehension, then he would truly begin to Understand.

The first and greatest Endeavor is to know thyself. Only a fool would suggest that he grasps the complexities of another when he cannot begin to understand why he does what he does. If Man does not know himself, then he cannot completely trust his judgment on others. To Presume that another is "Scummy" or "Innocent" based on his own judgments is to Presume Man can trust his own judgment; if that premise is flawed, then inexorably what follows is that Man is blinded by his own ignorance of himself. Man accepts as a matter of Faith that his judgment is trustworthy, and through that Faith he may begin to Achieve. But regardless of positive accomplishments (or indeed, negative ones) he cannot full credit himself; he is only a bit player in his own destiny. At the very edges of his consciousness the fog of the Unknown permeates everything. Man believes that he is at the center of the Known and that he is peering out into the Unknown, but in truth, his very being resides within the Unknown, because he does not know himself fully. As such, it is the Unknown which drives him forward, compelled by his Faith in his own limited Knowledge and the illusory concept of Choice, towards his ultimate fate.

This Point forms the root of self-knowledge; knowing that you do not know yourself. Man only begins his journey towards Understanding when his perspective changes, and he does not consider himself at the center of what is Known, and accepts that the greatest factor in his sentience is the Unknown. Then he can begin to consider Moods, biases, flawed logic, and begin to Understand what drives his own Intuition; better grasping the Unknown Factors which dominate his consciousness allow a more self-aware individual to flourish. As such, this individual will be better prepared to understand and to judge the factors in others which drive their own consciousness; their moods, their biases, their very intuition. Each person will have similar Factors and different Factors from another person, but patterns begin to emerge. From those patterns, true behavioral analysis can be attempted. Analytical Men can then perhaps put their energies toward a better and higher purpose. Until such time, however, Man must rely on his flawed intuition, and submit to the chaotic unknown that resides within his own Understanding.

When you were getting closer to these men, did you get to know them on a deeper level? Were their feeble bodies mere sacks of moist flesh for you to inhabit? Or, perhaps, were you experimenting with a new kind of intimacy, diving deep into the mysterious Unknown of your own sexuality?

This style is very similar to the Thing's in the write-ups.

Unvote; Vote: Rocco

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Just a reminder why your inaction dooms the town.

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Actually wait, upon a quick reread I know who Silvio is.

Unvote: Silvio
Vote: Johnny

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

This style is very similar to the Thing's in the write-ups.

Unvote; Vote: Rocco

Thanks, but it's actually a rather bad knock-off. I think Reenk would be insulted by the comparison, actually.

That's okay though, since you've failed to listen to me, I am now rooting for Reenk to destroy you all. I hope he wins.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Actually wait, upon a quick reread I know who Silvio is.

Unvote: Silvio
Vote: Johnny

courteously.

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Unless Reenk's doing a very good imitation, of course, which we can never rule out. But let's let the chips fall where they may.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Unless Reenk's doing a very good imitation, of course, which we can never rule out. But let's let the chips fall where they may.

You could always ask me any darned thing about Askthepizzaguy, and I would answer flawlessly.

But that would be too easy. Give Reenk a fighting chance now. Let's be sporting about it, like he's been.

[[MAFIA] Frank]

What I don't get is how the doppleganger could take place, without being blatantly obvious from the write-up.
Your arguments are good, but you think Johnny was taken over, how?

[[MAFIA] Vito]

Rocco/Pizza: Not sure I understand what you're saying. Do you want an unvote?

Frank: From the OP:

The Thing (mafioso): (1)
The bad guy. The mafioso gets one kill per night, however the mafioso will have two options on how to kill:

• Option 1: Normal Kill. The mafioso kills a person and they die. Dead player's account is unlinked to their Anonymous account.
• Option 2: Doppleganger Kill. The mafioso kills a person, but takes their form. The dead player is unlinked from their Anonymous account, while the mafioso takes control of the dead player's Anonymous account and uses it as his own. The mafioso's old Anonymous account shows up as dead.

The town will not know which option was used. The night write-up will narrate a kill, but the identity of the person who died will not be part of the narration. Instead, at the end a body will be found. The townies will not know whether the body is from a new victim, or The Thing's old (now discarded) doppleganger body. The mafia have some say in how much/little they put in their kill descriptions. It is up to the town to figure out how much is their work and how much is mine.

Emphasis mine.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

What I don't get is how the doppleganger could take place, without being blatantly obvious from the write-up.
Your arguments are good, but you think Johnny was taken over, how?

I haven't actually read the book or seen the movie, so I don't know the process of taking over someone's body. That's not what concerns me.

I'm just interested in either catching Reenk myself, or watching him have the time of his life. Either will satisfy me, really. I don't care if you let him go. It would be fun to try to catch him again.

[[MAFIA] Frank]

Oh, I see, missed that XD

Unvote; Vote: Johnny

[[MAFIA] Vito]

You want to let him go, that's your prerogative. Your vote's on him too. As for me, I'm going to sleep for real this time.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Rocco/Pizza: Not sure I understand what you're saying. Do you want an unvote?

No I'd rather you kill Johnny/Reenk. But honestly, if you prefer to keep playing the game, I'll understand. This is fun.

But keep your vote on Reenk for now.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

Oh, I see, missed that XD

Unvote; Vote: Johnny

courteously

[[MAFIA] Luigi]

After much investigating, to include post times, verb usage and rectal temperture, I have determined to

Vote: Johnny

[[MAFIA] Frank]

I'm just trying to get people's reactions, yours seems townie-like.

[[MAFIA] Rocco]

I'm just trying to get people's reactions, yours seems townie-like.

Can you truly trust your own judgment, though?

[[MAFIA] Luciano]

vote:Vito