^This, the man was a genius, although not necessarily a cavalry commander, but is this based on personal life or just skill? Because Forrest kind of helped start the KKK...
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^This, the man was a genius, although not necessarily a cavalry commander, but is this based on personal life or just skill? Because Forrest kind of helped start the KKK...
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Hungarian Hussars were still the best.
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Forrest used the Clan after the war but told them to disband because of the bloodshed. He then went to Congress and testified about the problems of reconstruction as well as about the Clan. Then spelled with a C.Originally Posted by Memnon
He was not a founder but he was the first national leader. The KKK is on its third incarnation.
The title Wizard is a tribute to Forrest but he did disband the first clan in the late 1860s.
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But it's still around today.
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So, kill it again!
I don’t think too many people would shed a tear to see it go down for the third time.
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and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
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Good point.
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Christian Marie Ferdinand de la Croix de Castries.
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Who's that?
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No "kind of." The man was an out-and-out racist/bigot. It is pretty well documented that he lamented the end of slavery.
On the field, however, he was a wonderful cavalry commander and the first US one really to get the mix of dismounted/mounted action correct.
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Could you show me the documentation on that?
There are a lot of contradictions in this mans life.
I know that well before the war he had ended his dealings as a slave trader and moved back to Mississippi.
When he gained command he went and got 50 volunteers from his slaves to go with him. They were not body servants either. They were his logistical support, and in a few instances members of his personal guard.
He told them that if they won the war he would free them, and if they lost the Yankees would free them, so either way they were going to be free. 48 of the 50 survived the war and were still with him at the end.
After the war he had high praise for black soldiers and his men in particular.
He went on to promote black rights, which did not endear him to the white community.
Some say it was because he found God, but at the time there was nothing in the religious views that conflicted with racism.
He was greatly admired by the black community in the Memphis area and they even held celebrations in his name until the 1960 with an unofficial holiday, taking the day off.
The topic of Forrest is here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...edford-Forrest
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You Tennesse boys simply dont know when to quit lol
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What about people like Rev. Theodore D. Weld, who wrote The Bible Against Slavery? What about the Quakers and their moral opposition to slavery? I don't know if Forrest's change of heart had anything to do with religion or not, but both sides on the abolition issue appealed to the Bible to give a faith based argument for their opinion.
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