Why do nice girls date guys who are jerks?

[Cute Wolf]

well, it's quite weird, but it was indeed ironic

(just try to be a jerk a bit, after get a girl, back to yer good natured originals then)

[Beskar]

A must read for "Nice Guys" for a greater understanding:
Do not click if easily offended

Explains the subject title of "Why do nice girls date guys who are jerks?" within the content as well.

[Husar]

Lately I tried not to be a nice guy and that girl hasn't spoken to me in three weeks, just saying.

[LeftEyeNine]

Lately I tried not to be a nice guy and that girl hasn't spoken to me in three weeks, just saying.

You couldn't even do that ? >:|

*force-facepalms himself so the action never ends*

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

You couldn't even do that ? >:|

*force-facepalms himself so the action never ends*

Faceplam + this music

[Husar]

You couldn't even do that ? >:|

*force-facepalms himself so the action never ends*

What? Obviously it worked quite well.

[Andres]

Maybe the jerks aren't really jerks and the "nice guys" are just jealous

It's not my fault that I have a fantastic personality, look good, have an excellent sense of humour, am good at conversations, have a good paying job, refined taste and a superior intellect

Somebody has to be the alpha male

[TinCow]

"Jerks" is the word that shy guys use to describe guys with a lot of self-confidence. Women, in general, prefer confident men. Grow a pair, stop being awkward, and get out there and be social. If you do, you'll find you'll have no difficulty in getting the attention of women. Then all the shy guys can call you a jerk and you won't care because you've got a date.

[Beskar]

Though there is the whole mannerism though, I am going to be brief on the details but this girl called me a puritan once because I didn't make references to my manhood or sex constantly. Then they started dating some one who kept messaging her things about wanting her to drink from a pot of "sperm tea" and cover her buns in "icing" at least 3 times a day. I don't consider myself the one who lost out there.

It isn't the case of a collective grouping of women being assaulted by two sets of guys known as the jerks and the niceguys. There is massive variation in personalities and personality differences.

[TinCow]

It isn't the case of a collective grouping of women being assaulted by two sets of guys known as the jerks and the niceguys. There is massive variation in personalities and personality differences.

This is absolutely true. My post was a generalization, as the OP was itself a generalization.

[Centurion1]

yeah that just sounds like someone with a semen fetish. im imagining someone saying all that with some form of a british accent...... funnier that way lol.

also. clever link i chuckled.

Personally i'm very open sexually and not very shy about it since its something the majority of my peers make a priority in their lives so why not talk about it lol. While I am about as far from a prude as you possible I don't go around saying things like your man beskar....... thats beyond disrespectful it just sounds creepy.....

[Strike For The South]

Though there is the whole mannerism though, I am going to be brief on the details but this girl called me a puritan once because I didn't make references to my manhood or sex constantly. Then they started dating some one who kept messaging her things about wanting her to drink from a pot of "sperm tea" and cover her buns in "icing" at least 3 times a day. I don't consider myself the one who lost out there.

It isn't the case of a collective grouping of women being assaulted by two sets of guys known as the jerks and the niceguys. There is massive variation in personalities and personality differences.

Speak for yourself

[Subotan]

Methinks Hooahguy has more than a touch of the green-eyed monster. Although I in my infinite wisdom and maturity, at least in relation to Frontroom threads about teh crazy wimmenz, am able to to exactly identify everything that is wrong with Hooah's sentiment, HBI put it far better than I would ever be able to:

I get letters from self-professed Nice Guys, complaining that women must WANT to be treated like ****, because THEY, the "Nice Guy" have failed repeatedly in relationships. This is akin to the false logic that "Whales are mammals. Whales live in the sea. Therefore, all mammals live in the sea."

If you have one bad relationship after another, the only common denominator is YOU. Think about it.


What's wrong with Nice Guys? The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys (tm) are hideously insecure. They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of attention to him.

...


This ultimately boils down to the fact that Nice Guys don't like themselves. Is it any wonder women don't like them? In order to truly love someone else, you must first love yourself. Too often Nice Guys mistake obsession for "love". You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it. Only then will you be attractive to the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible.

Mildly NSFW - http://www.heartless-bitches.com/ran...niceguys.shtml

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Methinks Hooahguy has more than a touch of the green-eyed monster. Although I in my infinite wisdom and maturity, at least in relation to Frontroom threads about teh crazy wimmenz, am able to to exactly identify everything that is wrong with Hooah's sentiment, HBI put it far better than I would ever be able to:




Mildly NSFW - http://www.heartless-bitches.com/ran...niceguys.shtml

Yeah, I'm a Good Guy, not a Nice Guy - I can be rude and abrasive at the best of times - but I have come to accept that I am incapable of forming relationships with women on an intimate level.

Hooah should do the same.

[Subotan]

I quote:

"Get this Guys: INSECURITY ISN'T SEXY. IT'S A TURNOFF."

[Beskar]

Personally i'm very open sexually and not very shy about it since its something the majority of my peers make a priority in their lives so why not talk about it lol. While I am about as far from a prude as you possible I don't go around saying things like your man beskar....... thats beyond disrespectful it just sounds creepy.....

Yup, that is what I don't get. Sure, there is a time and place for sexual remarks but when it is in the middle of the afternoon or at some civilized hour, you don't spam a girls telephone with those sort of comments.

On that note, don't answer a girls phone for her especially when they get sent such messages. I did once accidentally and well, that is how I know those messages were sent.

[naut]

I quote:

"Get this Guys: INSECURITY ISN'T SEXY. IT'S A TURNOFF."

Extrapolation:

Women are turned off by the nice guy. While most healthy women don’t want someone who is going to be mean to them, there’s a difference between being kind and being a disgusting wussy.

In my first relationship, I was a disgusting wussy. You know that guy, the one who says “Is everything okay with you? Are you sure? Are you really really sure?”

He avoids conflict at all costs. He wants everything to be smooth. Not only does this person lack honesty in the relationship, but he lacks all backbone and any thoughts and feelings of his own. He’s a wet blanket, not a person.

I was the nice nice nice guy. And I also had huge approach anxiety. These two are related.

Part of approach anxiety is a strong tendency to avoid conflict. You don’t want to BOTHER the girl. You wouldn’t be able to handle it if you did something to make her not like you.

Or if, God forbid, you creeped her out? It would take you weeks to get over it.

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realize that relationships are about two independent people coming together out of strength rather than out a of desire to feel good about helping some other person.

Being super nice can kill attraction in seconds. Attraction is based on a push/pull. A bit of teasing. Show the girl that you are willing to lose her. Make her take responsibility for her half of the interaction. She wants to be challenged!

Instead, the nice guy wears insecurity on his sleeve without knowing it. He sees it as a badge of honor for why he doesn’t succeed with women. He clings to it to cover the pain of failure.

It’s good to be nice to women. But hoping that meekness will attract women is a fallacy. Niceness on this magnitude is read by women as overcompensation for not having balls. It is overcompensation for not being willing to take true risks.

[Strike For The South]

Most of this insecurity stems from being socialy retarded. Most men who are perpetually single are

1. Terribly out of shape
2. Unable to carry on a conversation
3. Unpresentable in polite company

All of this other stuff is really inconsequntial and moot conidering if you can't connect with people

[naut]

1. Terribly out of shape

Aesthetics only assist in opening and increasing your margin of error.

[Strike For The South]

Aesthetics only assist in opening and increasing your margin of error.

Well what else is there son?

[SwordsMaster]

Even easier: there are people who would rather be sorry they did, and there are those who'd rather be sorry they didn't. One of them will get the girl.

[naut]

Well what else is there son?

Closing?

[Strike For The South]

Closing?

COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS

[Cute Wolf]

and I wonder if "Green" actually read this thread :D
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...-called-a-slut

and then this

just recently, from FB, PI being listed as "single" again, you can look on his FB page

[Prussian to the Iron]

Because if you're always available and willing to drop anything to be with a girl, and she knows it, you get put at the bottom of the list. If she thinks that she only has one chance to get you, because you act like a jerk who doesn't need them, then they will want to go out with you right then.

For the same reason as I don't smother one of my little brothers with love: he's the only one who always hugs me goodnight and tells me he loves me and everything (7 year old), but because he's so readily available and will do it anytime, it doesn't mean that much to me. Whereas the 5 year old brother almost never does any of the above, so its alot better.



Basically you have to not let them know that you give a damn about them until after you start dating, and then you can be a bit nicer.

I've found that at least in high school, almost the only time being just a nice guy will land you a girl is if you're the rebound and you listen to all their crap and make them feel good. But rebounds are always short and usually pretty meaningless, in-between periods for her and you'll end up getting hurt (and no, I won't make a thread about how I was Green's rebound til today)




EDIT:

I was told that I was previously in the OP? I'd like to know what it said exactly? I don't care if it's a personal attack or not Sec, I'm really curious though

[Cute Wolf]

well, always being available and nice maybe works for that....
so, its true for most girls then? I wonder if the reverse is also true

[Prussian to the Iron]

the reverse being that most jerk girls go for nice guys? or that always available and nice girls are in the same light as their guy counterparts?

[Cute Wolf]

the reverse being that most jerk girls go for nice guys? or that always available and nice girls are in the same light as their guy counterparts?

then this mean you should go find a jerk girl in your school

[Montmorency]

So:

1.

2. CuteWolf webstalks PI.

3.

[Cute Wolf]

So:

2. CuteWolf webstalks PI.

you could webstalks him too just add him on FB http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001603097354 (hell, he said this on his sig!)