Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Seon]

Unvote. Vote: El Barto.

I still love you buddy

[God Emperor]

Removing either ACIN or El Barto seems like a decent plan to me. However, El Barto is a good deal behind with the votes on him I think. So Vote: El Barto

[Kennigit]

Vote: Present for the time being.

[Johhog]

VOTE: El Barto

[TheLastDays]

Yay for votes without reasoning!

[Montmorency]

I would Vote: Subotan; not many seem to feel that he came off badly in the exchange with Stranger, though.

What is the case on El Barto?

Select: GH

Just keep in mind the latest amendment ratified by the States: no more than 2 terms for GH.

[TheLastDays]

I would Vote: Subotan; not many seem to feel that he came off badly in the exchange with Stranger, though.

What is the case on El Barto?

Select: GH

Just keep in mind the latest amendment ratified by the States: no more than 2 terms for GH.

Spreading doubt about the General? A deadly sin!

[Ironside]

What is the case on El Barto?

Winston claims that he's been dodging out of 2 groups on night 1 without any particular reason, and being dodgy on why.

Better case than The_Stranger and you on the basis that you two are claimed to be third party at best (for a lynch). You'll be better to funnel the vigi on I suppose.

Vote: El Barto . I do want to hear this reason.

Winston, what type of groups did he drop out from? I assume that the second was a vigi based on the writeups, correct me if I'm wrong.

Select: GH

[Cahoma]

Ah, it makes a bit more sense now.

Unvote; Vote: El Barto

[thefluffyone93]

Vote: Seon
for teh lulz

Select: Chaotix
for teh lulzors

[GamezRule]

These games take so long to read that virtually any vote is a bandwagon vote.

Anyway, vote: El Barto for being Takhisis. He probably won't get lynched this round, but at least this puts some pressure on the subject.

[Xenoneb]

Yay for band wagons!

[Populus Romanus]

Select: Askthepizzaguy

[Erebus]

Originally Posted by Erebus
I think you got an inconclusive PM on [Name Deleted] because myself and [Name Deleted] sent our orders with your name on it as well. I had sent in my orders before I realized you had left the group.

Erebus.

Yes, well… at least i have someone to back me up.

Right?

The scummy PM to start it off. El Barto contact or was contacted by Xenoneb, and got thrown into a protection group of nearly anyone who said hello to Xenoneb. We were a 4 man protection group that El Barto dropped out of claiming that the redundancy was Stupid. However, 2 of our 3 still including his name on the PM, so he got a results PM as well.

However, when I tried to explain why he got it, he seemed to want me to back up some sort of Alibi story. I nodded my head yes, and told a few people that I was VERY suspicious. Other stories of similar things come up, so the agreement was that El Barto needed to die. He dropped out of two groups (One protection and I believe on vigilante) and then tried to use me as an alibi.

Vote: El Barto

Also a detective has pmed me, I personally trust the source.

Subutan investigated as Guilty
TheStranger as unclear

Use this information how you will.

[Erebus]

Select: GH

[Populus Romanus]

The scummy PM to start it off. El Barto contact or was contacted by Xenoneb, and got thrown into a protection group of nearly anyone who said hello to Xenoneb. We were a 4 man protection group that El Barto dropped out of claiming that the redundancy was Stupid. However, 2 of our 3 still including his name on the PM, so he got a results PM as well.

However, when I tried to explain why he got it, he seemed to want me to back up some sort of Alibi story. I nodded my head yes, and told a few people that I was VERY suspicious. Other stories of similar things come up, so the agreement was that El Barto needed to die. He dropped out of two groups (One protection and I believe on vigilante) and then tried to use me as an alibi.

Vote: El Barto

Also a detective has pmed me, I personally trust the source.

Subutan investigated as Guilty
TheStranger as unclear

Use this information how you will.

I will trust you, Erebus.

I will unvote; vote: Subotan

[GeneralHankerchief]

Subotan is guilty because he was trying to vig Montmorency last night.

[TheLastDays]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think only succesful kills make you show up as guilty.

[God Emperor]

from the rules : If investigated by a detective, the Wiseguy will appear “criminal” if they have not been involved in a killing and “guilty” if they have…even if that killing was a while back. If investigated by a made, they will appear either as “criminal” or “unclear.”

This at least suggests that he needs to have performed a kill before showing guilty

[Silver Jan]

Vote Subotan

Specially seeing as he's been found guilty.

[Erebus]

Detective

May investigate two persons per night phase. The investigation will list the individual as innocent (Townie, Don), criminal (Luca, Made not killing, Wise Guy not having killed at all, and some townies), or guilty (Luca or Made on the night of kill, Wise Guy or Townie who has killed – you either get the current kill or their whole track record as well). Acts as a Townie in other respects. Reads as “innocent” if investigated.

[Winston Hughes]

Winston, what type of groups did he drop out from?

The group he dropped from was supposed to conduct a vig attack against a protected target (for doctor creation), while the group he failed to show up to was protecting me. I knew all about the former group (and its matched protection team), while I'd been told that the latter group existed, but was not informed of the personnel.

[Seon]

I thought that you showed up guilty on the nights you tried to kill somebody.

[The Stranger]

The scummy PM to start it off. El Barto contact or was contacted by Xenoneb, and got thrown into a protection group of nearly anyone who said hello to Xenoneb. We were a 4 man protection group that El Barto dropped out of claiming that the redundancy was Stupid. However, 2 of our 3 still including his name on the PM, so he got a results PM as well.

However, when I tried to explain why he got it, he seemed to want me to back up some sort of Alibi story. I nodded my head yes, and told a few people that I was VERY suspicious. Other stories of similar things come up, so the agreement was that El Barto needed to die. He dropped out of two groups (One protection and I believe on vigilante) and then tried to use me as an alibi.

Vote: El Barto

Also a detective has pmed me, I personally trust the source.

Subutan investigated as Guilty
TheStranger as unclear

Use this information how you will.

owyeah subo HOW YOU RESPOND TO THAT? i knew u were dirty :P

Subotan is guilty because he was trying to vig Montmorency last night.

weak attempt to cover for him, it was an attempt not a succesfull kill, so it wouldnt show up as guilty? anyway he has alot of explaining to do

from the townie pm

2. You will register as “guilty” only if you participate in a successful killing, and will continue to register as “guilty for the remainder of the game or until you change roles.

you shouldve known that GH! the speed with which you cover for subo is amazing. kinda weird. you say he was trying to kill montmerency, but clearly he wouldnt appear guilty in that case. so either he has participated in the n1 vig kill or in the n2 vig kills. or perhaps more interesting in the weird kill of moros, which seems to be a mafia kill.

in any case GH, why would you lie about Subos whereabouts?

[Montmorency]

No one seems to have noticed that Chaotix was stabbed by the Blu Spy. What's up with that?

[The Stranger]

I thought that you showed up guilty on the nights you tried to kill somebody.

apparantly not

2. You will register as “guilty” only if you participate in a successful killing, and will continue to register as “guilty for the remainder of the game or until you change roles.

[ULC]

The scummy PM to start it off. El Barto contact or was contacted by Xenoneb, and got thrown into a protection group of nearly anyone who said hello to Xenoneb. We were a 4 man protection group that El Barto dropped out of claiming that the redundancy was Stupid. However, 2 of our 3 still including his name on the PM, so he got a results PM as well.

However, when I tried to explain why he got it, he seemed to want me to back up some sort of Alibi story. I nodded my head yes, and told a few people that I was VERY suspicious. Other stories of similar things come up, so the agreement was that El Barto needed to die. He dropped out of two groups (One protection and I believe on vigilante) and then tried to use me as an alibi.

Vote: El Barto

Also a detective has pmed me, I personally trust the source.

Subutan investigated as Guilty
TheStranger as unclear

Use this information how you will.

I don't personally trust sources that give unclear investigations results.

Made Gangster:

A Made is one of the two initial “Made” gangsters in a crime family. Their objective is to lead up the “wet-work” efforts on behalf of their crime family, eventually controlling the town. If investigated by a Detective or another Made, a Made gangster appears “criminal.” If investigated by a Detective during a “night” phase in which the made gangster is actively involved in a killing, they appear “guilty.” In addition, a Made gangster can conduct one “recruiting” investigation per “night” phase. This investigation will determine if the individual is “criminal,” “innocent,” or “unclear.” The initial made gangster of a family is automatically aware of the identity of the family Don. In addition, a group of mades may provide protection for another Mafioso.

Since detectives are not listed as able to obtain unclear results, you are either in contact with a third party or a mafioso, and none of them are nominally town aligned. Cough them up.

Unvote:, Vote: Erebus

[Seon]

@Montmorency: probably a TF2 fan was amongst the vig team. You can choose how to appear in the write-ups after all.

Pizza appears in the writeup every night with his pizza and a Tommy gun after all. Somebody also used a rocket launcher, I believe.

[ULC]

For clarities sake, because I forgot my colons.

Unvote:, Vote:Erebus

[Montmorency]

@Montmorency: probably a TF2 fan was amongst the vig team. You can choose how to appear in the write-ups after all.

Pizza appears in the writeup every night with his pizza and a Tommy gun after all. Somebody also used a rocket launcher, I believe.

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Exactly. So who here like TF2?