Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Five posts in a row. Come on man, that is just unacceptable. Multi quote instead. The button is right next to the quote button. unvote; vote: The Stranger.

that button doesnt work for me.

It works for me. I don't understand why it wouldn't work for you.
Also, you can always edit your posts to add another quote. Be creative!
In a normal mafia game it wouldn't bother me but in a game like this it does!
Hopefully some mod will merge those posts.

[Sigurd]

Still have 5 pages to read.. but I think the Stranger/ Subotan exchange is worth a vote.
Stanger say Subotan is lying, Subotan say Stranger is lying. Someone is lying... Subotan used we in a very Sith manner.

vote: Subotan

[BillMc]

Some people need to read the roles. There is just too much conversation about the scans, when they don't show too much, especially this early in the game. Guilty does not mean too much, just means that someone has killed, we don't know why they have done it, since it could be a wiseguy doing it. later on it will mean something more important, but not right now.

Finally caught up. I think Hero's post lays it out (the bit underlined). Subotan claims to have failed in his group attempt to kill, yeah has returned guilty -- so he's lying about something; and his "I'll take information that can help town to the grave" defence is very anti-town.

vote: ACIN for the tie.

select: GH

[Believer]

I've been crazy busy these past few days with school work. Is there still time to vote?


Vote: abstain

Select: ATPG

I can't vote someone when there's this much text both in my books and in the thread, sorry.

[The Stranger]

can someone do a last thorough count to make sure there really is a tie?

i would do it but i have to go to college now

[Diamondeye]

Unvote; Vote: Subotan. He is the best lynch of the two.

[scotchedpommes]

Can't get a definite count.

Vote: Abstain

[BillMc]

UNVOTE Subotan for the tie if i count right

[scotchedpommes]

UNVOTE Subotan for the tie if i count right

The day is over.

[Hamata]

I think i was killed?

[ The Imperial Guard agreed to support the no-spam policy - Sec ]

[Populus Romanus]

The day is over.

And that vote was invalid anyways.

[naut]

Unvote; Vote: Subotan. He is the best lynch of the two.

Diamondeye for the vig/lynch tonight/tomorrow.

[gnarlycharlie]

Diamondeye for the vig/lynch tonight/tomorrow.

was he not paying attention?

[Craterus]

BillMc's unvote was right on the dot, by my calculations. Phase was due to end at 9am EDT (2pm BST) and his post shows up as 14:00. So that depends on Seamus' interpretation of the deadline, I suppose.

Why was Škotsko trying to end the vote 7 minutes early?

And FoS: Diamondeye, of course. Naughty boy!

[BillMc]

BillMc's unvote was right on the dot, by my calculations. Phase was due to end at 9am EDT (2pm BST) and his post shows up as 14:00. So that depends on Seamus' interpretation of the deadline, I suppose.

Why was Škotsko trying to end the vote 7 minutes early?

And FoS: Diamondeye, of course. Naughty boy!

There was about 5 seconds left on the counter when I completed a re-tally, and unvoted subotan; network lag from my blackberry may have taken it after 14:00; it'll be Seamus' call.

[Diamondeye]

Diamondeye for the vig/lynch tonight/tomorrow.

And FoS: Diamondeye, of course. Naughty boy!

Please tell me why voting for someone who has been scanned Guilty is suspicious.

[scotchedpommes]

Why was Škotsko trying to end the vote 7 minutes early?

You've misread it? Simply posted the same timer Seamus had set. Once the time's expired it displays the message that the day has concluded.

[Posted that much for reference as was switching back and forth through recent pages.]

Please tell me why voting for someone who has been scanned Guilty is suspicious.

You somehow don't see a problem with changing the number of votes with a few minutes left when people have been trying to achieve a tie?

[TinCow]

There was about 5 seconds left on the counter when I completed a re-tally, and unvoted subotan; network lag from my blackberry may have taken it after 14:00; it'll be Seamus' call.

Regarding the timer, I can give some insight on this. The timer displays the time left based on your personal computer's settings. It properly adjusts for time zone and such, but if your computer is not synced with standard internet time, your display may be a few minutes off one way or the other. The only way to compensate for this is to make the timer do checks on server time every single time the timer is queried, and that would cause a lot of additional queries to be sent to the server. I'm not willing to lag the server just to make sure that timer is absolutely identical for everyone. If there is an issue where a specific player thinks they cast their vote slightly before the timer expired, while someone else thinks it was slightly after, that is an issue the game host will have to decide for themselves.

[The Stranger]

gmt+0 13:00 flat. i think it should count.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have counted such votes in games, only when explicitly stated that :00 on the dot is illegal, do I not count it.

But that's me.

[TheLastDays]

So we have either Subo and ACIN or just Subo, right? Fine by me.

[BillMc]

Regarding the timer, I can give some insight on this. The timer displays the time left based on your personal computer's settings. It properly adjusts for time zone and such, but if your computer is not synced with standard internet time, your display may be a few minutes off one way or the other. The only way to compensate for this is to make the timer do checks on server time every single time the timer is queried, and that would cause a lot of additional queries to be sent to the server. I'm not willing to lag the server just to make sure that timer is absolutely identical for everyone. If there is an issue where a specific player thinks they cast their vote slightly before the timer expired, while someone else thinks it was slightly after, that is an issue the game host will have to decide for themselves.

Understood. I've no issue with the server if it doesn't not count - a blackberry is not the device of choice for doing a last minute recount to see whether DiamondEye was going to make or break the tie. Tho I'd like to hear his rationale for breaking the tie.

[Diamondeye]

You somehow don't see a problem with changing the number of votes with a few minutes left when people have been trying to achieve a tie?

I had no idea that there were only a few minutes left, I just read through the thread and voted. And no, I have no problem voting for my primary suspect even if that ensures his lynch.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

On my computer -- the only standard I can work with for this -- BillMc's post was at the deadline, 0900 EDT, and will count. Given Tincow's explanation, I would probably have counted the next post 0901 EDT as valid as well, though in this case it did not contain a vote.

jht was supposed to tally and I am missing that tally. This is close and must be checked. Give me a few more.

[TinCow]

On my computer -- the only standard I can work with for this -- BillMc's post was at the deadline, 0900 EDT, and will count. Given Tincow's explanation, I would probably have counted the next post 0901 EDT as valid as well, though in this case it did not contain a vote.

To further clarify, the timestamp on posts is done by the server. That stamp is identical for everyone, though it will display differently depending on the time zone selected in each profile.

[B-Wing]

I thought JHT has dropped out of all games?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wow, missing a day is pretty brutal on the catch up.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I thought JHT has dropped out of all games?

He will be missed dearly.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Out beneath the cracks and coming in waves
As Dawn's first rays cross the green field
they shine in open eyes lying still
From the boughs of the oak tree
three ravens wait
over his cold bones lying as they are
The wind will moan forevermore
They'll perch on his backbone
beneath the morning sun
peck out his eyes one by one
… “Such Hawks Such Hounds”
… Dead Meadow


9:31PM Tuesday, 31 October 1951
The Executive Meeting Room (Small Ballroom)
Fatlington Convention Center
Fatlington, New Jersey


Director Hankerchief, having changed his suit from grey to black once again, seemed more distracted than usual throughout the day's proceedings, having excused himself from the Executive Meeting Room several times to be briefed by Commissioner Fermanagh on the latest Devil's Night happenings. While the position of Director most ostensibly dealt with the mafia incursions into Fatlington, it was easy to forget that he had other duties as well.

By the end of the day, Director Hankerchief slumped over in his cushy seat, looking rather exhausted. He managed to rally himself, however, when the voting finally concluded. "Everyone remain in your seats, please," he said, noting the tied vote. "a completely inoffensive name and Subotan, eh? Well, that'll justify why I got so many eggs, I guess." His four scantily-clad assistants from yesterday, still dressed in white, had entered the ballroom and were passing out buckets filled to the brim with eggs to everyone in the room. The Director watched in silence as this task was carried out, and upon completion, the assistants took their places behind him. Now, Hankerchief spoke again.

"As you know, tonight is Devil's Night, the night before Halloween. And unless you have been extraordinarily lucky, you have had to deal with everything that comes with this night... most notably the acts of vandalism. Now, due to current circumstances, the police presence on this night has been stepped up and the acts of vandalism have been down by nearly 75% from last year. However, I said that I would be a business-friendly Director, and, well... we cannot have a dropoff in the sale of certain items simply because of an increased police presence. a completely inoffensive name, kindly make your way to the front of the ballroom." a completely inoffensive name did so, not liking where the Director was going with this very much. "You too, Subotan," Hankerchief said, "You're not getting out of this scot-free. The Committee members started muttering with pleasure at this turn of events.

"The dairy farmers in the towns surrounding Fatlington are very happy about my recent purchase of several gross' worth of eggs. In the tradition of Devil's Night, we will make use of these eggs in the most wasteful way possible. But this year, we will not do it in the name of vandalism. Instead..." - and the Director's gestures were rapidly growing more theatrical - "...we do it in the name of justice; ladies and gentlemen, your targets."

The last thing that people saw of ACIN and Subotan before they disappeared beneath the onslaught of eggs were eyes, two pairs of very wide eyes, conveying the twin expressions of immense panic. Then they were gone, and pure motion took over the ballroom. There was no chance of evading the amount of eggs that came flying their way, no chance of doing anything save for being rooted to the ground and wishing, praying, that it would be over soon.

It lasted five minutes before everyone ran out of eggs. At the end of it, both victims were dripping from head to toe, their skin bruised and cut and bleeding in some places but aside from that they were basically unhurt. Everyone blinked in surprise; wasn't the idea that he was supposed to be egged to death? Director Hankerchief, however, showed no surprise, instead simply getting up and addressing a completely inoffensive name and Subotan. "Go clean yourselves up," he said, "but not in the bathroom. We've already given the custodial staff here too much work to do. The Convention Center's right on the beach after all, take a dip in the ocean instead."

Everyone watched silently as a completely inoffensive name and Subotan stumbled out of the room, confused, waiting for a cue from their Director. After some minutes of waiting, they finally got one.

"Everyone to the windows, please."

The Committee did so, not seeing much save for two silhouetted figures gradually making their way to the ocean.

"The seagulls should be active this time of night, I think - yes, there they are." They descended upon a completely inoffensive name and Subotan at once, and suddenly everyone in the Committee understood. They watched in horrified silence as the seagulls formed a cloud around the two, obstructing their view - though occasionally they could see an arm flailing. This went on for about fifteen minutes as the seagulls picked a completely inoffensive name and Subotan dry, and then they flew away, leaving nothing but tattered, eyeless bodies on the ground and a gradually darkening patch of sand.

The committee filed out slowly, a bit numb. “Trick or treats” had concluded for the kids just an hour or so ago – and just moments ago for the committee as well. Happy Halloween!



OOC

Sorry this took so long. My designated primary tallyer was out of it – jht is not active for the present time – and I had to recount from scratch.

Orders (active and passive separate please) for Night 3 are due no later than:


Lynch Vote Tally:

ACIN – 24 (Neri, CR, OTLD, Sub P, Diana, Populus, Backwards, El B, W_E, guiri, landlub, gibs, visor, Craterus, Chox, sturm, Spring, ATPG, B_Ray, Jar, X2, edse, Ibn-K, & P.Phil).

Subotan – 24 (Ish, Sigurd, Diamond, khaz, SisCoy, Monty, Silver, Knngt, TinC, ULC, Romanic, God Emp, Shlin, Erebus, AggKng, Arjos, Cahoma, Seon, Rask, Woad, Renata, Leww, Slash, Lazy)

Stranger – 7 (qlyphz, memnon, subo, beefy, ried, hero.

Monty – 2 (Yaro, Sasaki)

Yaropolk – 1 (DaveS)

Beefy – 1 (Pasycho)

Seon – 1 (Fluffy)

Chaotix – 1 (ByzKnight)

Neri – 1 (Clitsome)

Abstain – 6 (Double A, Chaotix, Gnarley, DiY, Blvr, Skot)

Present – 1 (W.H.)

*Xenoneb’s vote for “King Cal” was invalid; BillMC’s Vote on the deadline was poorly formatted, and did not say “Vote: subotan,” so only the “unvote” was counted. These mistakes cancelled one another numerically, ending in a tie.

[Arjos]

LMAO, after this GH can be director forever :D