Proof of what a national ID service is good for.

[Fragony]

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

Bollox.

If you have nothing to hide you have a boring life. Thing is the people who want to know where you were what you did how you got there and with who, often do have boring lifes. Piss of with your databases

[Husar]

Germany doesn't have ID cards, we have personnel cards (Personalausweis), some say this and the fact there is some strange artwork on the back that can be interpreted as the head of a goat means we are all considered personnel of the NWO/devil. Oh and there's a pyramid as well, so make that NWO/devil/freemasons/illuminati.

This is how far we have come, an entire nation enslaved by the cards that they carry, meanwhile, people continue to use credit cards and participate in cashback programs etc.

As Ronin already said, there are enough countries that don't have ID cards where the government oppresses and jails innocent people and enough that do have ID cards where this is not the case.

[Furunculus]

Germany doesn't have ID cards, we have personnel cards (Personalausweis), some say this and the fact there is some strange artwork on the back that can be interpreted as the head of a goat means we are all considered personnel of the NWO/devil. Oh and there's a pyramid as well, so make that NWO/devil/freemasons/illuminati.

This is how far we have come, an entire nation enslaved by the cards that they carry, meanwhile, people continue to use credit cards and participate in cashback programs etc.

As Ronin already said, there are enough countries that don't have ID cards where the government oppresses and jails innocent people and enough that do have ID cards where this is not the case.

it's a common law thing; not wanted in britain.

if you like your ID cards by all means keep them, but not here, no thanks.

this is a public service broadcast from your resident xenophobe and hyper-nationalist with racist, militaristic, populist, and autarkic tendencies

[Beskar]

lol, sorry, who were those "lots" of British people who agree and consent to use compulsory ID cards?

i ask because i am having trouble identifying them................

You missed my other post. The fact we have these other cards already and that this is merger of all these different details in one handy form.

But during the whole thing, people were like "I don't really want ID cards, same with all these others cards we are given, but attempting to force these on us, removing our liberty and forcing us to pay for them as well?! Madness".

this is a public service broadcast from your resident hyper-nationalist autarkic racist

Sorry for off-topic, but racist? I never thought of you as such or I never thought you revelled in such things.

[Furunculus]

You missed my other post. The fact we have these other cards already and that this is merger of all these different details in one handy form.

But during the whole thing, people were like "I don't really want ID cards, same with all these others cards we are given, but attempting to force these on us, removing our liberty and forcing us to pay for them as well?! Madness".

not my recollection of affairs i have to say.

Sorry for off-topic, but racist? I never thought of you as such or I never thought you revelled in such things.

apologies, never meant to imply that you did. merely a carry-over from the various euro-threads whenever i use differing cultural norms to explain different 'national' attitudes to things like monarchies/id-cards/ever-deeper-union etc. by the time i'd got to page forty in the ECR thread i had begun to collate a whole strong of them! :D

[Ronin]

If you have nothing to hide you have a boring life. Thing is the people who want to know where you were what you did how you got there and with who, often do have boring lifes. Piss of with your databases

I have nothing to hide....I have a few things I would be embarrassed of....but nothing I must hide :P

[Fragony]

I have nothing to hide....I have a few things I would be embarrassed of....but nothing I must hide :P

Oh common it's perfectly awesome to be photographed with a pornqueen. I only think about how these fingerprints and probably DNA soon can be used against me, by people who can, it doesn't improve my mood. Databases can be hacked, DNA is in your hair, and fingerprints can be faked. I don't trust people with it being possible. Nurse here got life in prison because she was supposedly a serial-killer, if you would read up on how things went you would probably understand my position a little better.

[Ronin]

Oh common it's perfectly awesome to be photographed with a pornqueen.

I'm not embarrassed of that one....I damn near have it in my curriculum vitae :P

[rory_20_uk]

People shouldn't have to carry papers, but I think the government should have databases of certainly fingerprints. People who were not on the database would have to explain why not.

The system the government set up of course cost a fortune - like the NHS computer system which was scrapped and the integrated fire services which was also scrapped.

[InsaneApache]

People shouldn't have to carry papers, but I think the government should have databases of certainly fingerprints. People who were not on the database would have to explain why not.

The system the government set up of course cost a fortune - like the NHS computer system which was scrapped and the integrated fire services which was also scrapped.

Good god.