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    It's a street just off Athinas Boulevard, the area where Greeks used to do their utility shopping, from food to pets to kitchenware to DIY tools and everything in between. The district is now dead. The only lively part I found left is Venizelou and the student quarter. The bars, the bookshops and restaurants are still buzzing and the gorgeous, arrogant 21-year-old girls are still out in force there.

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    Well there you go: Arrogance.

    What's this about the money lenders saying the austerity measures have gone too far?

    It strengthens my position that the Greek government is responsible for this mess. Greece has a democratic government, therefore it is a problem with the people, the culture, or (likely) both.


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    Well there you go: Arrogance.

    What's this about the money lenders saying the austerity measures have gone too far?

    It strengthens my position that the Greek government is responsible for this mess. Greece has a democratic government, therefore it is a problem with the people, the culture, or (likely) both.
    Yes, the political system is out-dated and corrupt, it is now in disarray, but neither the ruling PASOK (160 of 300 seats) nor the main opposition party ND (91 seats) is willing to change it because their political and personal interests are bound up with it.

    Probably sounds familiar to an American, huh?

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    Yes, the political system is out-dated and corrupt, it is now in disarray, but neither the ruling PASOK (160 of 300 seats) nor the main opposition party ND (91 seats) is willing to change it because their political and personal interests are bound up with it.

    Probably sounds familiar to an American, huh?

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    Oh yea. There's a huge problem with governments becoming vested in failing systems. That's why a little revolution now and then is a good thing. Western (U.S. and many European) governments and economies are coming to the end of the postwar era. America's economy was based on a shattered European economy. Many of Europe's governments have their roots in the aftermath of the war.

    Hopefully it won't take another war to sort things out.

    Sorry. I'm not being too helpful, am I?


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    Gee Greece buys 400 M1A1 Abrams tanks and 20 AAV7A1's. Another reason why we aren't getting our money back

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    Gee Greece buys 400 M1A1 Abrams tanks and 20 AAV7A1's. Another reason why we aren't getting our money back
    Their military budget ranks 2nd in Europe. Behind Turkey. Can you guess why?

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    Their military budget ranks 2nd in Europe. Behind Turkey. Can you guess why?

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    Yep. And they probably have to buy these tanks in exchange for the loan.

    Send me another accept-gyros sure I'll pay *sigh*

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    Their military budget ranks 2nd in Europe. Behind Turkey. Can you guess why?

    AII
    Because Turkey is number 1? I'm not sure how they planned on getting all those tanks across the Aegean though...


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    Turkish Thrace.
    Vitiate Man.

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    The glib replies, the same defeats


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    Gee Greece buys 400 M1A1 Abrams tanks and 20 AAV7A1's. Another reason why we aren't getting our money back
    You'd think that they were expecting trouble wouldn't you?

    A military junta for them this time next year.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    You'd think that they were expecting trouble wouldn't you?

    A military junta for them this time next year.
    ya muahahaha incident in the Balkan anyone

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    ya muahahaha incident in the Balkan anyone
    The Greek armed forces now appear to be entering the political and street-level debate in the country over EU- and IMF-imposed austerity, with a group of retired Greek officers storming the defence ministry and the armed forces’ professional organisation issuing a stern warning to the government that the military’s confidence in the “intentions of the state” regarding their pensions has been “shaken”.
    http://euobserver.com/13/113821
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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