Costco: Corporate Champion of the Consumer

[a completely inoffensive name]

Sooo basically a company bought an election. Yes, I can see why you would like this CR.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sooo basically a company bought an election. Yes, I can see why you would like this CR.

What election???

[a completely inoffensive name]

What election???

Seriously SK? You gonna twist my nipples over a wrong term to be pedantic? The initiative vote. Thing that allowed CostCo to start selling alcohol in the first place? Is this not an election? People voting is not an election?

They paid for the outcome over a law. last sentence in the second quote "Costco spent about $15 per voter. It was a good fight, and its ads were clean."

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Seriously SK? You gonna twist my nipples over a wrong term to be pedantic? The initiative vote. Thing that allowed CostCo to start selling alcohol in the first place? Is this not an election? People voting is not an election?

Nope.

They paid for the outcome over a law. last sentence in the second quote "Costco spent about $15 per voter. It was a good fight, and its ads were clean."

You're **** straight they did. The state had a monopoly on the selling of liquor, and so a bunch of distributors (other corporations) wanted to keep the law, which is a bad law. Costco spread the word and the initiative passed. That's why spending money on campaigns is free speech.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Nope.

What?

election
e·lec·tion
noun
1.the selection of a person or persons for office by vote.
2.a public vote upon a proposition submitted.
3.the act of electing.
4.Theology. the choice by God of individuals, as for a particularwork or for favor or salvation.


Is definition #2 wrong?

You're **** straight they did. The state had a monopoly on the selling of liquor, and so a bunch of distributors (other corporations) wanted to keep the law, which is a bad law. Costco spread the word and the initiative passed. That's why spending money on campaigns is free speech.

That's cool, still really don't see why this should be allowed. We have had this discussion before Sasaki. This time it worked out nicely in getting rid of a bad law. So you think it is a good process. And yet, along with this nice outcome there are going to be countless other elections where interest groups and corporations buy victories for crony capitalist policies and politicians by spamming misinformation and commercials at voters 24/7.

Hooray, everyone can speak as loud as their money can buy them, good thing it is only the people with bad ideas that have no money amiright?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Is definition #2 wrong?

Yes.

That's cool, still really don't see why this should be allowed. We have had this discussion before Sasaki. This time it worked out nicely in getting rid of a bad law. So you think it is a good process. And yet, along with this nice outcome there are going to be countless other elections where interest groups and corporations buy victories for crony capitalist policies and politicians by spamming misinformation and commercials at voters 24/7.

Hooray, everyone can speak as loud as their money can buy them, good thing it is only the people with bad ideas that have no money amiright?

You are resigning yourself to never being able to change a bad law then. The status quo will be too powerful. In elections name recognition will rule.

How much do you think can be done with commercials? How bad a law do you think a corporation could get passed?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Yes.

Kk, we got that cleared up.

You are resigning yourself to never being able to change a bad law then. The status quo will be too powerful. In elections name recognition will rule.

How much do you think can be done with commercials? How bad a law do you think a corporation could get passed?

I think advertising can make people do and think whatever someone wants them to do and think. It can make teenagers have parents buy a $2,000 laptop to browse facebook and write word documents.