*Sigh* The Dating Scene

[Kagemusha]

Well you're wrong. Sorry.

Is that not a matter of personal preference? How can he be "wrong" about it?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Is that not a matter of personal preference? How can he be "wrong" about it?

It was just me acting stupid. I wasn't being serious.\

Obviously if he gets something out of casual sex, then he has created a meaning from it. I just know there is nothing for me personally to gain from it, so I feel it is pointless.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Casual sex certainly has its place, for both sexes. It's not just men preying on unsuspecting women who all think that they're going to get a husband and a baby out of it! Women are naughty too.

Casual sex has become a way for people to gain self esteem and feel better about themselves. This is backwards imo, because you are inherently depending on someone else to provide you with your self esteem by offering or accepting your request for sex. A man or a woman should strive to be as independent as possible, to value his or herself because of accomplishments or goals that did not depend on another person's acquiescence. I am not saying people should reserve themselves until marriage, but if you are having casual sex for anything but pleasure then you are doing it wrong. And if you are doing it just for pleasure, then that is fine, but it nevertheless is hollow and pointless.

[Kagemusha]

Acin ,That is your point of view,coming from your perspective and i can respect it. Still people are living in lots of different life situations and for example some might have lived through a marriage already. Some might prefer to live alone depending on their situation.Still sex is a basic urge for humans. Most things which give pleasure to humans could be painted as hollow or pointless.
You do not need to eat a chocolate bar to survive, still many like their sweets.Your survival does not depend upon the slightest if you drink alcohol and for example like to have a nice glass of single malt once a while. You do not need nice clothes or a cell phone,flat screen tv or an computer to survive. Still people want these things in their life. For some these might make themselves feel better about themselves, just like to some achieving something else might have the same effect.
If we look deep enough into anything, conclusion might be that it is more or less pointless.But in the end is not such scrutiny pointless also? My personal belief is that what ever makes a human happy should be allowed to him/ her as long as it does not hurt others. Who are we to judge what pleasure is better for anyone compared to something else.

[Nowake]

if you are doing it just for pleasure, then that is fine, but it nevertheless is hollow and pointless.

Hollow and pointless? That is not true even psychologically, nevermind physically /friendly wag of the finger

You are certainly aware intercourse increases your immunity, truly improves your sleep – both the crucial REM and the normal, non-REM phases – relieves a lot of stress, part of which would be caused by the lack of it, allows you to generate Oxytocin and reduces blood pressure among other, less studied positive effects.
Having sex regularly is always a good for you biologically. Always being in a relationship is not.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Acin ,That is your point of view,coming from your perspective and i can respect it. Still people are living in lots of different life situations and for example some might have lived through a marriage already. Some might prefer to live alone depending on their situation.Still sex is a basic urge for humans. Most things which give pleasure to humans could be painted as hollow or pointless.

You have said most things. So you recognize there are things that could not be painted in such a way correct?

You do not need to eat a chocolate bar to survive, still many like their sweets.Your survival does not depend upon the slightest if you drink alcohol and for example like to have a nice glass of single malt once a while. You do not need nice clothes or a cell phone,flat screen tv or an computer to survive. Still people want these things in their life. For some these might make themselves feel better about themselves, just like to some achieving something else might have the same effect.
If we look deep enough into anything, conclusion might be that it is more or less pointless.But in the end is not such scrutiny pointless also? My personal belief is that what ever makes a human happy should be allowed to him/ her as long as it does not hurt others. Who are we to judge what pleasure is better for anyone compared to something else.

My answer to the bold part is no. The part underlined I agree with, for the most part. The last sentence is just wrong.

Who are we to judge if someone's alcoholism is better or not than someone taking joy out of doing a hard days work? It's blatantly throwing away all reality for the sake of not offending anyone. Somethings are just better than others. There are constructive activities which are fun and there are destructive activities which are fun. To equate all pleasure on the same level is silly. I am not saying that anyone having casual sex is morally wrong, I am just saying it is an error in judgement.

Hollow and pointless? That is not true even psychologically, nevermind physically /friendly wag of the finger

You are certainly aware intercourse increases your immunity, truly improves your sleep – both the crucial REM and the normal, non-REM phases – relieves a lot of stress, part of which would be caused by the lack of it, allows you to generate Oxytocin and reduces blood pressure among other, less studied positive effects.
Having sex regularly is always a good for you biologically. Always being in a relationship is not.

This all seems silly. I am talking about building character and you are bring up how well you sleep after you fill up a condom.

Do you mean to tell me that you have sex to build up your immunity? Or to have a good night sleep? Sure I can see having sex to relieve stress, but stress isn't exactly the demon it is painted out to be.

You have told me before the psychological benefits of casual sex, but as far as I can remember from what you wrote, my complaint at the time (I don't think I posted this though) was that even if it was true, and that casual sex worked for many people, that still doesn't make it the correct choice (and I am not talking about morals here).

[Kagemusha]

I think you are getting the underlined sentence wrong.I can speak from personal experience as one of my parent´s is an alcoholic to the point that it has completely destroyed her life. The situation you describe does hurt others. In ths case us being her family. So it is your interpration of my words that is wrong one, not my words.